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LiveLike VR

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The article is overly promotional, and the article creator seems to have a undisclosed WP:COI with the subject. Almost all of the article's references are 404 pages, and upon a quick search, the subject does not seem to be notable per WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Likely written entirely or partly using generative AI. Evidence: links are 404s despite the article being written today, access dates are all 2024-3-20 despite the article being written today, searching the source titles in quotes yields nothing, nothing is archived. Anerdw (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sources 1, 5, 7 and 10 don't exist at the links given. I find nothing else about this enterprise. Likely Hoax as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, a PR item seems to confirm it existed [1], but the article as now sourced appears to be using made-up sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 18:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. My guess is that the non-existent references are hallucinations by an LLM. Madeleine (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not notable media coverage and failing WP:GNG. J. P. Fridrich (talk) 11:57, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cosm (company)

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I stumbled upon this article after looking at the LiveLike VR article that was nominated for deletion. Three sources are given in the article, one of which is a press release, and another doesn't exist at all. Fails WP:NCORP. Madeleine (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm sure this can fall under WP:PROMO as well. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; widespread coverage. // Gargaj (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Dasey

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That's biograme is merely sourced, it's known that he works as journalist that's all there no reasons for meeting notability guidelines The Wolak (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2027

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Might just be WP:TOOSOON for an event two years out. More sourcing would have to be found to warrant a standalone article right now. JTtheOG (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It's the next of this tournament, it is not a yearly a tournament, and the article will be needed eventually Servite et contribuere (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I couldn't find any sustained coverage of this event yet, just an announcement about the host. Not enough to keep and there isn't enough in the article to draftify. Esolo5002 (talk) 01:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

VOOsport World

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Fails WP:GNG, sourced to primary sources and database entries. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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California Cup Juvenile Fillies Stakes

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Non notable horse race with limited reliable sources. The only ones were data sheets from the race, no notable coverage in the press. DankPedia (talk) 03:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anthony Spaulding Sports Complex

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Not a notable stadium. Search turns up a few articles which mention the stadium by name when discussing games there, but no significant coverage of the stadium itself. Other sources include a database entry and the club's own website. — Moriwen (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Arnett Gardens F.C. as possible search term. Possibly notable. Giant Snowman 20:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to the person it was named after Anthony_Spaulding#Minister_of_Housing. It is a multiple sport complex and is mentioned in the redirect. Not notable on its own. Can be salvaged with merge. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per Ramos1990 Czarking0 (talk) 02:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sports Kyoushitsu

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Fails WP:GNG. Other language wiki page has no sources that support notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Longstanding (1961-2017) series broadcasted nationally on NHK. WP:NTVNATL. DCsansei (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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DGUSA The Rebirth

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No notable independent pro wrestling event. Just one source in the article. Quick search shows just a few WP:ROUTINE results. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No WP:SIGCOV ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The reason why I put up the article was because this was the revival of Dragon Gate USA under the control of Dragon Gate. My apologies for not including any other sources but I've fixed it. Added a source for the results BTW. Unknownuser45266 (talk) 02:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Unknownuser45266: The sources you added are still not WP:RS or WP:SIGCOV. They are just the results, which I believe comes under WP:ROUTINE ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RS:X Youth World Championships

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The list of championships includes only 13 events, none of which have their own Wikipedia article. This leads me to believe the page may violate notability guidelines. I think it should be merged back into the main article, as it doesn't meet the criteria for a standalone page. However, given the heavy reliance on primary sources, there may be little, if any, content worth merging. Johnson524 06:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see how you can ever reach that conclusion. It is a World Championship formally recognised by the IOC recognised sporting body. To add to this it is the "Youth" World Championship on the same equipment as used in the Olympic Games hence a number of high profile sailors. All the content for this has been on wikipedia for a number of years in templates. As per a previously agreed policy with other editors who requested that the events side is not on the same page as the equipment these event pages for each title were created. The title definately meets the sports notability requirement although I doubt individual event do. I will work more on the referencing but even this is much better than the previous 10 years. I would say this page also demostrates the usefullness of wikipedia as the official website for the RS:X disappeared within 18 months of the equipment not being used as Olympic equipment. The event is no longer held. Yachty4000 (talk) 01:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not seeing significant independent coverage indicating notability. Mainly insider publications. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Baby Gronk

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As a biography of a minor-- and especially one who has been involved in social media controversy-- we need to be especially stringent with the sources we use and the information we include. (WP:BLP, WP:BLPPRIVACY, WP:BLPMINOR). The subject's most consistent coverage outside of sports blogs and such (which we don't consider reliable sources) isn't solely focused on him; it mostly concerns his father or his interactions with Livvy Dunne and Rob Gronkowski's interactions with him. This causes the article to fail WP:NOTNEWS; the most coverage the subject has gotten was from a few reliable sources over summer 2023. Since then, it's been mostly local news sources, press releases about apparently joking university commitments, and social media geared sites we don't consider when discussing notability (Bleacher Report, etc.) Maybe this kid will be more notable in the future-- but Wikipedia is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. If/when reliable sources cover the subject in more detail, a better article can be written on him. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 22:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - we should not even be under the appearance of encouraging half of what's happening. Red Flag City. Bearian (talk) 03:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:MINORS, this person had no say in whether they want to lead a public life or not and the coverage is not overwhelming (while substantial and maybe close to passing GNG for any other subject) does not outweigh the right to privacy for a minor. --hroest

Richard D. Myles, Sr.

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This is an unusual AfD because it rests on one typical and one unusual rationale:

The typical rationale: there is no significant coverage of him standalone from Minor Football League, which does have significant coverage. The material available could be selectively merged, though I notice the sources are promotional and do not establish notability.
The unusual rationale: his claims of attending Arizona State or playing for the Patriots do not verify. The all-time ASU football roster does not list him, nor is he mentioned in any Arizona newspapers of the 1970s—nor is he in any NFL draft listings I can find on Wikipedia or other sources or in NFL records. The earliest mention I can see of either claim is a 1998 article in The Washington Post. I am fairly sure this is a fabricated biography (which he has used since the 1990s).
Sammi Brie (she/her · t c) 22:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As the original author of the article, I appreciate the point raised by Sammi Brie. I was not aware that the claims regarding his football background had been circulating unverified for so long. In hindsight, the information I found was not accurate or reliable enough to support a standalone biography, and I agree that deletion is the best course given the current evidence.
While his contributions to the MFL may merit inclusion in that article, the subject himself does not meet the threshold for a standalone biography at this time. Unless verifiable primary or secondary sources emerge (e.g., archival ASU documents or reputable third-party reporting), deletion is appropriate. Wq4m820 (talk) 22:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nominator and article author. Unusual indeed - I guess every industry has their George Santos. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for reasons stated above.
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Delete. I agree with the nom, author, and WP:BLP on this. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 13:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Madeleine (talk) 22:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I am unable to find evidence of notability satisfying WP:GNG or WP:NATHLETE in the form of WP:RS. ZachH007 (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eagles–Packers rivalry

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I have thought about this one for a while, and after that time, I do not see it meeting our notability guidelines. Consider:

The only standalone notable games between the two is 4th and 26 and 1960 NFL Championship Game.
They have only played each 48 times over 90 years and have never been in the same division.
They have only played each other in the playoffs four times, with one of those happening just a month ago.
A review of relevant sources does not show sustained use of the term "rivalry" to define the Packers and Eagles playing against each other (outside of local fluff pieces, like this), even though they have been doing so for 90 years. Even playing against each other in high profile, recent games (like in Brazil and this year's playoff game), there is not much, if any, discussion on this being a true rivalry, above the normal interactions that two teams have against each other in the NFL.

The Packers are an old franchise and have many rivalries, but all of their rivalries meet at least one of the four bullets above. For those reasons, I believe deletion is justified now. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I'm not an expert on NFL rivalries and have tons of respect for Gonzo's knowlege of Packers history. FWIW, a quick search did turn up "Historically, Green Bay has had edge", a full page review of the rivalry's history. See also here and here. Cbl62 (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Honestly, I struggle with both this one and the Packers/Rams (they have played each other 100 times!). My main challenge is at some point a line has to be drawn, or the Packers will have rivalry page with every NFC team (maybe they should, idk). The Bucs were in the Packers division for years, the Cowboys/49ers/Seahawks all have a lot of notable moments, especially in the playoffs. I think I remember watching Week 1 last year (the Brazil Packers/Eagles game) and one commentator noted for two teams who have existed for so long, its surprising they don't have a stronger history. Idk, either way I won't be beat up about the result. Just trying to find the line in the sand on where a "long-term match-up" transitions to a "full rivalry". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. In the college context, it's similar to Notre Dame or Alabama where we have ten rivalry articles for each program, in part because of the long history and legendary status of the programs. Cbl62 (talk) 17:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

philadelphiaeagles.com is the website of the Philadelphia Eagles (one of the involved teams), so it's not an independent source for this topic, and thus does not count towards notability. Left guide (talk) 23:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it isn't a notability-establishing source in the Wikipedia sense of the word, but the fact that the Eagles have published a page discussing with some depth the history of their rivalry with the Packers is indicative of notability in a real-world sense. Cbl62 (talk) 00:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I've always found these rivalry articles to be on the fringe of notability (not to mention terribly formatted). There should really only be a handful of them for historic ones and ones that tend to get coverage specifically for the matchup, such as Commanders-Cowboys, Bears-Packers, and Ravens-Steelers. The Eagles-Packers matchup last year had more coverage due to its location (Brazil) than any rivalry between them. The less notable ones like this one tend to just include game history, which borders on being WP:NOTDATABASE. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Although Wikipedia does not have criteria for sports rivalries, every pair of teams has a rivalry to some extent, and there is nothing notable about this one. Ira Leviton (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I would rather keep this page because it is an NFC rivalry and it grew last season due to Brazil game and wildcard game, as well as the tush push move the Eagles used the Packers tried to propose to ban. 2601:40A:8400:1820:6C48:3E23:BF66:29C4 (talk) 01:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As an Eagles fan I can tell you we have had little to no hatred for Green Bay at all (aside from this recent tush push thing), so I don't see this as notable. I don't believe two teams having several "cool" moments while playing each other over history (1960 championship, 4th & 26, Brazil, etc.) necessarily constitutes a rivalry, because again, there is little to no animosity between the two. Red0ctober22 (talk) 01:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As a Packers fan, we are trying to ban the tush–push that was started by Philly, who started it back in like 2022. Proof: https://motorcyclesports.net/eagles-roast-packers-after-nfl-keeps-tush-push-legal-with-a-22-10-vote-reminiscent-of-playoff-defeat/ As a result, I would like to keep this page on Wikipedia.2601:247:C983:C0:D4BB:354A:E3FC:51BC (talk) 02:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment for closing admin I have warned both IPs, AGF, regarding our policies on using multiple accounts. The editing style and interest in this AFD is hard to imagine being coincidental. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They don't look like the same person to me. One IP uses edit summaries while the other doesn't, and one IP's edits are all on mobile while the other's aren't. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are some other similarities, but that's why I warned with an AGF warning. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noting also that there is another IP changing other editor's comments, which has been reverted. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It would be very helpful if participants can discuss available sourcing, and make an assessment as to whether they qualify this recurring event to meet WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT notability standards. So far, it seems that only Cbl62 and portions of Gonzo fan2007's and Dissident93's statements make any attempt to talk about sources. An uninvolved closer is unlikely to give much weight to most of the arguments on this page. Left guide (talk) 23:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to mention that 2601:247:C983:C0:D4BB:354A:E3FC:51BC has also provided a source. Left guide (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: You heard him, the source that was used by 2601:247:C983:C0:D4BB:354A:E3FC:51BC really helps this discussion to understand about this rivalry between the two mentioned teams. I have an alternative source for you guys here: https://section215.com/eagles-go-packers-throats-after-failed-rule-change-01jvsr7e87p2 « HarryPotter2011 (talk) 00:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
section215.com is powered by FanSided, which from my understanding, has been
deemed unreliable per community discussions. @HarryPotter2011:
Also, please fix your signature so its settings only apply to itself;
it's spreading weird font and formatting glitches to replies such as this
which is inappropriate. I have to manually add line breaks.
Left guide (talk) 01:16, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

tangential discussion about signatures and formatting Left guide (talk) 20:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How does my signature look inappropriate to you? It's not filled with rude words or stuff like that. HarryPotter2011 (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The content is fine, but it's causing formatting issues. Left guide (talk) 01:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does this look better? « HarryPotter2011 (talk) HarryPotter2011 (talk) 17:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It shows your username twice, and still spreads its font to this comment and the same formatting issues. If I continue to type, you can see that this comment goes off the side of the screen. Left guide (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommend a default signature for now, and then testing how replies look in your sandbox for signatures you want to have. Left guide (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How do I do that? HarryPotter2011 (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Special:MyPage/sandbox is one way. Some further instructions are at WP:About the sandbox. Consider asking at WP:Teahouse if you have additional questions about signatures and sandboxes. Left guide (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Perhaps one possible ATD is to Merge content to List of NFL rivalries#Green Bay Packers vs. Philadelphia Eagles. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Liz, that was added after the creation of this article. This discussion is determining whether a rivalry exists, so it wouldn't make sense to merge there if this topic isn't deemed notable. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Playing each other and having interesting games do not constitute a rivalry. Playing each other in Brazil does not make it a rivalry. Geschichte (talk) 09:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The tush push and 4th and 26 do however. 73.110.12.114 (talk) 13:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New England Nightmare

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No significant edits for several years. Google search for references turns up only things about Halloween or bad news for the New England Patriots. It is unclear how this article can be salvaged. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 10:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [2][3] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Manchester Freedom

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Fails WP:SPORTBASIC, not updated in over ten years. Unlikely to be salvageable at this point. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 23:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. WP:SPORTBASIC appears to apply to bios not teams. WP:NTEAM says that there are no special notability criteria for teams other than those listed under particular sports and American football doesn't seem to be listed on that page? This defunct team appears to have been covered somewhat regularly by the Manchester, Nashua, and Keene newspapers with occasional coverage elsewhere. Jahaza (talk) 06:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It's unclear what you're referring to: there are three references in the article. There is no coverage by newspapers from Nashua or Manchester(the first reference is a wire story), and only one story from Keene. "Somewhat regularly" would infer that they would have coverage of all, if not most, of their games in addition to other coverage. If this coverage exists, why has it not been added in the last decade? If you can assist with adding these references, you are welcome and encouraged to do so.Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of professional baseball teams based in Davenport, Iowa

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Unsourced list which seems to fail WP:NLIST. I find no independent reliable sources that justify this being a standalone list. Although each of these teams existed, that does not justify a list. If sources are added, this might be a merger candidate to History of Davenport, Iowa. Without any sources, it's trivia that fails notability guidelines. Flibirigit (talk) 00:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of professional baseball teams based in Fort Wayne, Indiana

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Unsourced list which seems to fail WP:NLIST. I find no independent reliable sources that justify this being a standalone list. Although each of these teams existed, that does not justify a list. If sources are added, this might be a merger candidate to the section History of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Without any sources, it's trivia that fails notability guidelines. Flibirigit (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ralph Ledbetter

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Fails WP:NATHLETE. Ledbetter's professional career in European basketball was unremarkable and does not seem to have yielded coverage in German and Luxembourgish news. The currently listed sources are his entry in the Glenville State College Hall of Fame showering affiliated praise, a user comment from the DC Basketball Blog (not even the blog post itself), minor discussion of his single-game performance in The Glenville Mercury student newspaper, and a YouTube interview from the channel Alumni4life, a local varsity jackets retailer. While I found two other instances of Ledbetter's performance reported in the Glenville Mercury, neither instance bothered to mention his season-wide performance, much less broader commentary on him as an athlete/person. Being twice named to the First All-WVIAC Team is impressive, but for a NCAA Division II conference, that achievement seems below WP:NCOLLATH. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 15:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Found some more coverage at [[4]], [[5]], [[6]], and [[7]]. Let'srun (talk) 19:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the identification of additional sources! I think the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and Indiana Gazette coverage when Ledbetter was playing in their respective areas is below the WP:NCOLLATH criterion of gaining "national media attention as an individual". Similarly, the Bedford County Press and Everett Press article is only a local newspaper reporting Saint Francis University's pride at recruiting Ledbetter. The Evening Sun article on Ledbetter's threat to not play at Crossland High School if transferred from Largo High School as part of D.C.'s racial integration is pretty interesting, though that coverage is not significant on him, nor did he follow through on that threat. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 19:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent info! JoseyWales019 (talk) 22:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Greenlee

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All I was able to find on this basketball player was this interview with the subject and this interview with his parents, which I don't believe warrant a standalone article. JTtheOG (talk) 07:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not seeing sufficient independent SIGCOV to pass WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There appears to be very little coverage of this individual beyond primary sources Garsh (talk) 17:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (with work) - May meet notability due to FAU Final Four run. 1. trivial mention. 2. Televion interview. 3. Good source, notable mention. 4. Half discusses career, in short WPTV article. 5. Trivial mention, part of team that went to final 4 and contributed as a player. 6. Trivial mention in indep.article. 7. Interview (uni page)

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Comment: Found some coverage at [[8]], [[9]], and [[10]]. Let'srun (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- 1: team-specific microblog (Owls247.com), author graduated from the same uni in 2023, also just 3 sentences of direct coverage
- 2: routine interview from unreliable source (WP:SPORTSKEEDA), also just 2 sentences of direct coverage
- 3: routine coverage from a reliable source
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Anthony Spaulding Sports Complex

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Not a notable stadium. Search turns up a few articles which mention the stadium by name when discussing games there, but no significant coverage of the stadium itself. Other sources include a database entry and the club's own website. — Moriwen (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Arnett Gardens F.C. as possible search term. Possibly notable. Giant Snowman 20:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to the person it was named after Anthony_Spaulding#Minister_of_Housing. It is a multiple sport complex and is mentioned in the redirect. Not notable on its own. Can be salvaged with merge. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jackson Kreuser

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Sources cited are several database entries, a paid publicity announcement, and a single local news announcement of a transfer. News search turns up a few mentions of his name in lists of players, but no in-depth coverage. — Moriwen (talk) 01:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - is better known as “Rocky Kreuser” in the USA. When you search that, looks borderline keep/delete so will do a thorough review later. Rikster2 (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No significant coverage/notability. JohnMizuki (talk) 07:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frank T. Monahan

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Sources are three database entries and a brief obit from his college, none of which are significant independent coverage; nothing better turns up on search. — Moriwen (talk) 23:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Keep, appears to meet GNG, see e.g. this, this and this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Merrimack Warriors men's basketball. Not seeing this as passing WP:Basic. Main claim is that the was a coach, but many coaches exist and they do not have their own page. Notability should be clear from the sources, but this is lacking. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In what way is coverage lacking? What issue do you have with the presented sources? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Passes GNG. Another source: part 1, part 2 ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tino Danevski

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No in-depth coverage of this assistant coach available, just passing mentions in a couple of articles. Does not meet WP:BIO. — Moriwen (talk) 14:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Atlantic Coast Conference women's basketball Rookie of the Year

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Seemingly no non-routine coverage in secondary sources. Bulk nom and I have done some WP:BEFORE on all of these Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Pac-12 Conference Men's Basketball Most Improved Player of The Year. Meets WP:LISTN with coverage of the grouping: The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been More sources added here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagumba (talk • contribs) 08:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Pac-12 Conference Men's Basketball Sixth Man of the Year. Meets WP:LISTN with additional coverage of the grouping added here.—Bagumba (talk) 09:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all. For Big East Conference Women's Basketball Defensive Player of the Year, I was easily able to find reliable secondary sources referencing each of the first 20 recipients of this award from 1997 through 2016 and added the references to the table here. There was a plethora of choices from which I was able to select. You will note that many of the references are not simply published lists from press releases but stories that went beyond routine coverage. Also, coverage in newspapers outside the locality of the award winners was present. This is beyond the standard set by WP:NLIST, since each individual entry does not need to be notable. While I suspect the article in this bulk nomination lack in referencing to demonstrate their notability, it is the referencing that is lacking, not the notability. They deserve tags stating such, but they should not be deleted. Taxman1913 (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024–25 in European women's basketball (A–K)

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With this title, I would expect Information about the European competitions (for clubs or national teams), not a collection of results of national competitions which just happen to share a continent but are otherwise not related. Seems like a weird way to present these. Fram (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete Almost entirely a difficult to navigate collection of game results and WP:NOTDATABASE so I think this should be deleted. Division of the list by alphabetized country name is also strange; why not by league/division or similar? Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  What do I need to do improve it? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 13:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  What do I need to do improve it? Can you give me advice please? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 09:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep A lot of info and very useful. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 09:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Katwe Combined Boxing Club

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Procedural nomination per Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_May_10#Katwe_Combined_Boxing_Club * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article's references don't support a claim of notability and my own search did not find anything other than passing mentions and fight results. What I didn't find was significant independent articles about the club itself. If such references are found, please notify me and I will reconsider. Papaursa (talk) 11:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sajjad Ibraheem

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No evidence of WP:SIGCOV for this young cricketer. More coverage would be needed to meet WP:SPORTBASIC. PROD was contested by linking a deprecated essay. JTtheOG (talk) 20:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The subject meets the inclusion criteria as defined in Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Notability#Individuals, which states that any cricketer who has played in a single officially recognized first-class, List A, or T20 match is presumed notable. Sajjad Ibraheem made his first-class debut for Peshawar in the 2024–25 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy on 5 November 2024, in a match against Rawalpindi. This competition is recognized as first-class by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), which is the governing body of cricket in Pakistan. Therefore, the article satisfies the notability requirement under subject-specific guidelines, regardless of broader media coverage. ESPNcricinfo profile. Behappyyar (talk) 20:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
According to the guideline you linked, that page is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference. Sports figures need at the very least one independent source with significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV). JTtheOG (talk) 21:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the reply. While Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Notability is marked as inactive, the notability principle that first-class cricketers are presumed notable is still active policy via WP:NCRICKET, and has been consistently upheld at AfD. As per WP:NCRICKET: "Playing in a first-class match is usually sufficient for notability." This is supported by numerous prior AfD closures. This satisfies WP:NCRICKET and aligns with community consensus for cricketer notability. WP:GNG is not required when reliable subject-specific notability exists and has been broadly applied in practice. Behappyyar (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are these AfDs from the previous three years? Participation-based guidelines have been deprecated since 2022. JTtheOG (talk) 21:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Just to clarify: WP:NCRICKET notes that significant coverage should not be assumed for all domestic players, but it also states that playing in an officially recognized first-class match is usually sufficient for notability. This reflects established AfD precedent. Since Sajjad Ibraheem debuted in a PCB-sanctioned first-class match, the subject meets this standard, regardless of media coverage.

This will rest on whether sufficient sources can be found to meet the WP:GNG – something along the lines of WP:BASIC level. I don't read Urdu so can't determine if the source in that language would significantly help reach that sort of bar. Simply meeting NCRIC has not been considered sufficient for an article to be kept for years. In this case there appears to not be a suitable list to redirect the article to, so I would suggest sending the article to draft initially unless suitable sourcing can be found Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. According to global consensus, all sportsperson articles are required to cite a source of IRS SIGCOV in addition to the subject meeting GNG. Meeting NCRICKET only affords a presumption of further SIGCOV if this SPORTCRIT criterion is satisfied. JoelleJay (talk) 15:42, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Burnell

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I could find no information about him that indicates notability- most information is about DSPGaming. The sources for the page are from one site. - Dr. Precursor 03:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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If not sourcing can be found, this should probably be redirected to List of Oxford University Cricket Club players#B as a suitable WP:ATD in order to preserve the page history etc... There are possibilities here and this is the standard approach that's been taken over a long period of time for cricketers such as this. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Per Blue Square Thing Servite et contribuere (talk) 16:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alisa Scantlebury

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Fails WP:NCRIC as Barbados cricket team is not a Test playing nation and also not enough in depth coverage for a WP:GNG pass. Robo^Cric Let's chat 14:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kolkata Knight Riders–Royal Challengers Bengaluru rivalry

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I can't find sources that cover the rivalry in depth, only match reports / previews. None of these cover the rivalry in depth, just have passing mentions of them being rivals. As per WP:NRIVALRY the rivalry itself has to pass GNG. These teams have undoubtedly played each other a lot, but this article just seems to be a rehash of match reports / lists of loads of statistics. Spike 'em (talk) 07:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't think that it's possible to have so much spicy rivalry between two franchise teams. I consider it as a WP:FANCRUFT. The rivalry is not proved to be notable as it is not backed up by reliable and secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. Robo^Cric Let's chat 14:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: not much WP:SIGCOV, other than WP:ROUTINE coverage, fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio 13:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is not an IPL fandom site, this article is not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Siddhartha Cricket Stadium

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Contested redirect without improvement (along with a personal attack). Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If this was a state level sports stadium in the US would this deletion nomination ever have been put forward? Let's try and counter - not reinforce - Wikipedia's bias problems. Atrapalhado (talk) 09:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP This is a perfectly valid article that should not have been put forward for deletion (if you get your kicks deleting articles people have worked hard on, at least focus on the many thousands of unnecessary articles on US sports and popular culture, rather than seeking to scrap valid articles from non western/ non Anglosphere country topics which are inevitably harder to source but no less notable).

Anyway, this is clearly a major regional cricket ground in Nepal. Sources make clear it's one of the grounds for the major cricket tournament in the country. The article is substantially developed. Yes it needs more sources but the source cited is independent and provides good material. If our friend who put this forward for deletion wanted to do something more useful with their time, he/she could readily add additional sources from independent professional cricketing sites which can be readily found on Google. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atrapalhado (talk • contribs) 23:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Peace Trail (Wisconsin)

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Not notable. Sources cited are the "rock trail coalition" (a local volunteer group) and a database listing. WP:BEFORE turns up a number of murders along the trail at various times, but nothing conferring notability. — Moriwen (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, this article was recently created and I'm intending to expand it (I've been busy with college-related stuff lately and haven't been on Wikipedia as much) Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 23:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Janesville,_Wisconsin#Parks_and_recreation. Not seeing this place as notable. The arresting location source seems out of place for articles about general locations. WP:COAT. Ramos1990 (talk) 01:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect and draftify Article can be incubated in draft space as an ATD. मल्ल (talk) 13:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: On 12 May, CyberTheTiger was intending to expand this stub. Since then, CyberTheTiger's list of contributions show that they've found the time to make other contributions to Wikipedia; perhaps they could hurry to improve Peace Trail (Wisconsin) (if it is indeed improvable). -- Hoary (talk) 00:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Big Four (cycling)

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Some sources will speak of a big 6, others of a big 3: this is arbitrary and very fleeting. Unthinkable to many to suggest that Matthieu van der Poel is not part of the biggest n riders at the moment. A few years ago there was an entirely different top few riders, in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more. Nothing of lasting relevance: this is a no more than a questionable snapshot of standings in the sport right now. Kevin McE (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand there are probably one-off cases of sources using "Big N" to discuss random groups of riders, but considering there are multiple independent sources (e.g. [11] [12]) that define the term (not just mentioning it in passing), there are articles that discuss inclusion in the group (Is Remco Evenepoel Part of Pro Cycling’s ‘Big Four’?), and sources that refer to coverage of the group ([13] references "the much-talked about 'Big Four'"), I think this rises beyond an "arbitrary" grouping.

There has been usage of the term for this specific group of riders for nearly a year and a half (since December 2023), and frequent usage by many different organizations since the 2024 Tour de France, which I feel is more than "very fleeting". It would be a different conversation if I had created this article immediately after the 2024 Tour, but considering usage has continued and frequently appears in articles and previews for 2025 events (for example, these two previews for the 2025 Giro d'Italia starting this weekend both mention the Big Four: [14] [15]).

Mathieu van der Poel is not a GC contender for stage races, which is likely why he is not included in this grouping, which the article (and quoted sources) make clear is about success in stage races and Grand Tours, not a general group of "top riders" Verylongandmemorable (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Already commented but just wanted to add: I think the argument that "in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more" conflicts with WP:CRYSTALBALL. Whether or not these riders are successful in the future, the term is widely used currently and has been defined since 2023. Assuming that it will be forgotten is not a prediction we are able to confidently make (and IMO is a bold prediction considering 3 of the 4 riders are 28 years old or younger) Verylongandmemorable (talk) 23:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple reliable sources are included in the article, specifically referring to the term Big Four.[16][17][18][19][20][21][22] Please provide sources to support the claims of Big 6, Big 3, et cetera. Flibirigit (talk) 22:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. As per above, there are multiple independent reliable sources which reference "Big Four" in cycling, and no sources have been provided to the contrary. Flibirigit (talk) 23:05, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Big 6: [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28] and many more [29]

Big 5: Not as common, but drop in form of Wout van Aert (one of the six) will probably make it more common in the future [30]

Big 3: [31], [32]

Previous big four: [33], [34]
Phrase is incredibly flexible and transient: a journalistic device but not a meaningful and lasting concept. Kevin McE (talk) 07:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the additional sources to consider. However, there's a significant difference in coverage between the "Big N" examples you've provided, and usage of "Big Four" to refer to the grouping of Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel, and Roglic. It isn't just used within cycling media, but in mainstream, highly reliable sources, for example:
New York Times (via The Athletic): "INEOS Grenadiers have none of the sport’s big four on their books — Tadej Pogacar, Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic — who are currently the only men realistically able to win the Tour de France."

The Independent: "And with three of the so-called ‘Big Four’ absent from the race, the door appears wide open for Roglic to regain the crown he won two years ago ... It’s hard to look past Roglic taking home the pink jersey given he’s the only member of the so-called ‘Big Four’ who’ll ride in Italy."

The Guardian: "Pogacar, one of cycling’s “big four” stage race riders – Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic are the other three"
Also, I'm a bit unclear on why the existence of a "Big Six" of cycling or "Big Three of the Classics" would negate the notability of this specific "Big Four" as an encyclopedic topic. The sources referenced in this discussion and in the article clearly delineate this quartet and their domain (stage races such as Grand Tours). As an analogy, if in men's tennis there was a future "Big Two" or "Big Six" that received significant coverage, would that erase the notability of the Big Three (tennis)? It could be worth noting in the article that a previous quartet of riders was referred to as the Big Four, but the articles you have sent are from 2015, so confusion with the current, widely discussed grouping of Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel, and Roglic is unlikely. The current "Big Four" has seen consistent definition and coverage for the last year and a half. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 17:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The point of mentioning the Froome/Quintana/Contador/Nibali top 4 is to give evidence that this is just a temporary grouping, as there have been in the past and will be in the future.

In the tennis example, there might be grounds for saying that they are historically all historically great players (I don't really follow that sport): but by what grounds are Vingegaard and Evenepoel being positioned as historical greats in relation to grand tours?

I acknowledge that it is a phrase used by journalists, but that does not mean that it is a concept of any durability or lasting significance. In the time I watched soccer there have been numerous different permutations described as the big 4 of English clubs: Everton used to be among them, Man City certainly weren't. Lazy journalistic phrases describing a short-lived status quo make very poor justification for encyclopaedic entries. Kevin McE (talk) 18:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeff Jennings

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Subject doesn't meet the WP:SPORTSBASIC due to a lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jovan Trnić

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Serbian men's footballer who spent his entire career at the lower levels. Corresponding article on the Serbian Wikipedia is slightly longer, but even secondary sources are just passing mentions while the last is an interview without independent analysis, if I could read them correctly. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Temi Adesodun

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20 Championship appearances [35] before not playing for three years. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 13:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Joey Madigan

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Subject doesn't have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 13:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sean Karani

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only sources in the article are primary and all I could find elsewhere were a couple of sentences of coverage at [[36]], which isn't quite enough for notability to be established. While the previous AfD closed as "keep", that was based on WP:NFOOTY, which has since been depreciated. Let'srun (talk) 14:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tolani Ibikunle

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Subject does not appear to have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The current references are all primary to the clubs and leagues the subject has played for, and while [[37]] has some quotes from the subject the article is more about MLS referees having a racial bias than him. Let'srun (talk) 14:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emerson Nieto

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of significant coverage. The only references in the article are primary and I couldn't find anything elsewhere to support notability. Let'srun (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep subject looks notable based on Indyeleven.com. (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mysecretgarden, Indyeleven.com is his team's website. That is not an independent source. JoelleJay (talk) 01:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, didn't notice that. Changing my vote to DELETE. Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:19, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Grosh

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The current sources in the article are all primary and a search elsewhere didn't come up with anything to support notability here. Let'srun (talk) 14:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Most are references profiles. Subject does not enough coverage. Mysecretgarden (talk) 00:27, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:19, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stadion SC Mladost

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Reverted redirect, without improvement. Lots of mentions, but searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to FK Železničar Pančevo – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Svartner. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 11:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dodô (footballer, born 1990)

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Fails GNG and SPORTCRIT due to his career never getting off the ground, recording mere minutes of play in his many clubs, and lack of significant coverage. Geschichte (talk) 09:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He was runner-up in the J-League with Gamba Osaka, but I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:13, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It lucks enough media coverage to shows its notability; but can be kept if the user provide sufficient relevant sources for it ... 110 and 135 (talk) 18:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doda (footballer)

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and not really anything resembling a claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I didn't find anything about him even in databases. Svartner (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It lacks sufficient notability and doesn't have enough media coverage. 110 and 135 (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Takuma Nakajima

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Previously deleted. No trace of notability, only 1 match on J League level. Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

József Somogyi (footballer, born 1955)

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Was soft-deleted through AfD back in October, after which it was quickly recreated, even though they didn't go through the object process. Same issues still apply as per Demt1298's original nom: "Fails WP:GNG. Searches have failed to show WP:SIGCOV " Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Searches have failed to show WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 23:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and SALT - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hrach Kaprielian

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Non-notable businessman. Lacking any WP:RS. Cabrils (talk) 01:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep - @Wcquidditch please consider withdrawing this nomination. I have added over a dozen new citations. He is a well known Armenian businessman and philanthropist. Mainly take a look at these: ankakh.com and westernarmeniatv.com (English documentary of the same is here). There are many more citations if you search his name in Armenian. I stopped looking as I have found enough. I have also greatly expanded the article and his bio.Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Any withdrawal of this nomination will not be coming from me. I only performed deletion sorting here and am not the nominator — Cabrils (talk · contribs) is. I have no opinion on the nominated article or the new sources. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. @Cabrils seems to be the nominator. I will also message him. Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Carry

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Ian Carry meets WP:COACH through notable roles including head coach at NCAA Division I level, interim coach of a national team, goalkeeping coach of a national team, and current head coach of the U.S. Men's Beach Soccer National Team.[38][39] He has held multiple verified coaching and technical[40]positions at national and[41]collegiate levels.[42] The article is not AI-generated and is improvable. Wq4m820 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Gil (soccer, born 1983)

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I didn't find anything about his spell at Vasco da Gama. And excluding the T&T newspaper source, none of the others seem reliable. If he was that important to futsal/beach soccer in the US there would certainly be more sources. Svartner (talk) 07:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This article was not made with AI.
Moderated BS world Cup Was nominated for Soccer League hall of fame for time with Beach Socer USA national team. According to the Wikipedia page for the 2012 Mundialito de Clubes, a player named “Gil” scored in two separate matches for Vasco da Gama. futsal, a sport with even less media coverage, has documented his national participation as well, as shown in this 2010 report from FutsalPlanet. This supports notability under WP:NATHLETE, which considers athletes who have competed at the highest level of their sport, including international representation. (sourcing for wiki page is needed, research can be done - and found). Wq4m820 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that none of these sources are independent or provide in-depth coverage of him. Svartner (talk) 23:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NATHLETE, SIGCOV is not required in the same manner as WP:GNG. That's Policy. Notability is established by participation at the highest level of competition, including international representation. Oscar Gil’s involvement with the U.S. national beach soccer team and participation in major international tournaments clearly meets this criterion. While stronger independent sourcing would be ideal (and can be worked on accordingly), the current evidence satisfies WP:NATHLETE’s standards for retaining the article. Wq4m820 (talk) 00:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The actual language in WP:ATHLETE, which is in bold letters, is The article should provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline. JTtheOG (talk) 07:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wq4m820, please actually read WP:NSPORTS. All subjects must meet GNG, and all biographies of sportspeople are required to cite an IRS SIGCOV source. JoelleJay (talk) 15:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Upon rereading WP:NATHLETE in full, I recognize that significant coverage from at least one independent, reliable source is still required. I maintain that Gil’s international participation aligns with the competitive notability standard, but absent a SIGCOV source at this time. If deletion proceeds, I’d support userfication so the article can be improved for a future resubmission. Wq4m820 (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kei Sugimoto

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Playing 16 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and has neither that nor a Japanese Wikipedia page. Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jiro Hiratsuka

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Playing 11 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and has neither. Geschichte (talk) 13:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Masafumi Mizuki

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Playing 20 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and seems to lack that. Geschichte (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 OFC U-16 Women's Championship qualification

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Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT, Just a results listings of an under 16 competition. No appropriate redirect target.

I am also nominating the following related page:

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Keep see coverage that goes beyond WP:ROUTINE, beyond simple listing of scores and other results. U-16: Friends of Football: [43], [44], [45]. Football in Oceania: [46]. Samoa News: [47]. U-19: Friends of Football: [48]. Talanoao 'O Tonga: [49]. Just to note, this is an example of coverage from a competition that I would consider routine: [50]. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The football related sources cannot be considered independent third party sources. This source and this which you have identified are about the U19 team and not this event? LibStar (talk) 05:07, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Misread the nomination and thought the other nominated page was U-19. Why should the others not be considered independent third-party sources? They are reliable with journalistic backing.

Additionally, U-16 sources: [51], [52] Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not journalist backing or considered reliable press. They appear to be blog sites and unreliable as per WP:SPS. LibStar (talk) 05:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as not notable, but in time the qualification process can be mentioned on the parent articles if/when they are created. Giant Snowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 OFC Women's Champions League knockout stage

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Provides little additional information that cannot be merged to 2025 OFC Women's Champions League. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 23:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:REDUNDANTFORK. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2025 OFC Women's Champions League – All pertinent information must be displayed in the main article. Svartner (talk) 01:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree that this is WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Relevant details can be merged to 2025 OFC Women's Champions League Asteramellus (talk) 00:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as a cheap WP:ATD. Don't see any content that needs merging and whilst there isn't much page history to preserve '2025 OFC Women's Champions League knockout stage' is a semi-plausible search term. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per above. Will also support this for any other seasons of this tournament and the men's equivalent event (which also has a knockout article for the same amount of matches). Joseph2302 (talk) 07:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Osamu Chiba

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Very common name, kind of like the Japanese counterpart to "Philip Wright". Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia likewise contains references, but those are just database. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shinya Kato

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - 9 JLeague appearances is not a great claim to notability. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 16:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shinji Kaneko

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - 0 professional appearances apart from 1 cup game, the rest are all in the JFL. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 16:51, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elidion Mara

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I believe he is not notable at all. Brief career with only 33 minutes played in Albania's highest league. None of the sources are in-depth about him. Geschichte (talk) 19:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Poorly-sourced article without IRS SIGCOV. There's no Albanian Wikipedia article too. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Akram Abd Rabo

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The article lacks reliable secondary sources and does not establish notability. The player appears to have had a brief and low-impact career in lower leagues without coverage in significant media. Fails both general and WP:NFOOTY notability guidelines. Ziad0tarek952005 (talk) 16:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This discussion page was created without the {{afd2}} template and not transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--@Ziad0tarek952005: For future AfD nominations, please fully follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thanks. --Finngall ^talk 16:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jo Nakajima

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 11:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seiichi Negishi

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 11:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:22, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aminu Abdallah

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Made 30 appearances in his career for Championship teams before disappearing from the sport. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:36, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Luizinho (footballer, born 1987)

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Even after a WP:BEFORE I couldn't find anything about the player, who had spells at Fluminense and FC Penafiel and is a youth international. Even so, fails in lack WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 19:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Non-notable footballer. Paul Vaurie (talk) 00:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Motoki Imagawa

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rodrigo (footballer, born 1979)

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Completely fails in WP:GNG, there is nothing about this player even on stats databases ([53]). Svartner (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete - Per Svartner, no database stats is worrying. RossEvans19 (talk) 23:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Toshihiro Yahata

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong delete The article cites no sources. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 11:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The secondary sources provided on Japanese Wikipedia are just press release. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taiki Maekawa

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia is just an unsourced dumping ground. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:12, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Only made two cup appearances, the rest are all at a lower level. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 18:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yōsuke Nishi

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Footballer with no usable sources and no good claim to notability. Someone tried to redirect it, but without any valid target. Geschichte (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia only consists of one source that is a press release, and nothing else. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2014–15 Moldovan Under-18 Division

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Children's football in Moldova. How is this notable? (Note that I will not bundle the other seasons at this point.) Geschichte (talk) 20:26, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete Barely cited (and to a primary source) for a juvenile league. I can't see how this is going to pass any sort of notability standard. Mangoe (talk) 22:05, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete did some searches for native name, can't find anything. Would suggest a PROD for others if they are the same situation. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Note that youth football can be notable, this is not. Giant Snowman 20:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the kids can have an article on their league if they grow into pros. 2600:8806:2A05:1100:1097:AFF5:4FE9:E15F (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I spent a few hours looking into this subject and did not find credible evidence of notability. ZachH007 (talk) 19:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024/25 Romford FC Season

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Seasons for a low-tier team are not notable. Challenged PROD Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 17:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Clearly fails in WP:NSEASON, since is about a 9th tier club. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This ninth tier club's (mediocre) season does not seem to be notable by any means, especially when looking at WP:SEASON.– AllCatsAreGrey ^(talk) 11:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete checking into the references cited, does coincide with above mentions.Villkomoses (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Snow delete, per nom. Govvy (talk) 22:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence of notability. ZachH007 (talk) 00:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just trying to promote the club, because Romfords fan base isn't very big and we are trying to get more fans TylerBrown21 (talk) 11:55, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion or publicity. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:56, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Thiel

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The only source for this football player is a bio from his club. I was unable to find any independent sources, including on the wikipedia library. It's possible there's something older and non-digitized that I'm missing, but I've had no luck at all. — Moriwen (talk) 15:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – The article is about an Australian rules footballer. Svartner (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've found 1 article on Newsbank, but Australian online coverage from the 1980s is extremely poor, and even recent Adelaide papers are behind paywalls. Absolutely guaranteed that there is a heap of coverage offline of a ten year player, twice winning the premiership, and dying young. The-Pope (talk) 16:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ali Najafi

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Second-tier footballer who fails WP:BIO. All citations on page are database entries; search is a little tricky due to news articles about several murderers with the same name, and it's possible I missed something in Iranian, but I note the lack of any article on the Iranian wiki. — Moriwen (talk) 19:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 18:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Drafify per GiantSnowman Robertjamal12 ~🔔 11:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Bresser

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Unable to find significant independent coverage, although his club (PSV) has some press releases; other than that, it's just database entries. — Moriwen (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft Not sure why it wasn't sent to draft space in the first place. Could easily be notable in the future. Govvy (talk) 20:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's more than 90 days old and therefore ineligible, alas.— Moriwen (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 16:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 18:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep since presently notable. There is a huge distance between the intro and the facts on the ground. SIGCOV sources: ESPN article by Daan Sutorius and AD article by Rik Elfrink. These are multiple sources that support notability. Other items that fall short of standalone SIGCOV yet can cumulatively contribute to such (i.e. do not analyze individually!): [54][55][56][57][58][59]. Among these are additional articles by the sports journalist Rik Elfrink. gidonb (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuri Koledin

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Fails WP:BIO. Second-division football player with no independent coverage, just database entries. — Moriwen (talk) 16:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep – Per the Russian sources present in the article. Svartner (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's a saddening case of refbombing, though. Geschichte (talk) 17:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Most of the sources present in the articles are interviews, sources affiliated with the article's subject (websites of his football clubs), a gambling site, and passing mentions. "goleada.ru" source has reasonable coverage, but I don't think this is enough. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 18:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability (per analysis above). If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bagus Ilham

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Unable to find any coverage satisfying WP:BIO, although it's possible there's something in Indonesian that I'm missing. Player for a second-tier football club; sources are a database entry, a brief article mentioning a transfer, and an instagram post. — Moriwen (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. No secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Spaulding Sports Complex

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Not a notable stadium. Search turns up a few articles which mention the stadium by name when discussing games there, but no significant coverage of the stadium itself. Other sources include a database entry and the club's own website. — Moriwen (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Arnett Gardens F.C. as possible search term. Possibly notable. Giant Snowman 20:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to the person it was named after Anthony_Spaulding#Minister_of_Housing. It is a multiple sport complex and is mentioned in the redirect. Not notable on its own. Can be salvaged with merge. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per Ramos1990 Czarking0 (talk) 02:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marcelo Rosa (footballer, born 1991)

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Player with few professional appearances, most for Minas Gerais state clubs in lower levels. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Villa Nova Atlético Clube (where he plays midfielder). Does not seem notable on his own. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:27, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He barely played for the club, there is no point in redirecting. Svartner (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Clashes in Brussels on May 4 and 5, 2025

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WP:NOTNEWS, racist and violent football-related riots which happen sadly quite often. Can perhaps be a short paragraph in some other article, don't know where though, but not enough to be a separate article. Got a lot of attention, as these things do, but no indication so far that this will lead to anything WP:SUSTAINED. Fram (talk) 15:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – the article does not describe just another hooligan riot, but a case of significant socio-political unrest in Belgium. 80 people were injured, including children, policemen and a man with serious gunshot wounds. this is very unusual. there have been many political reactions at national level and official commemorations. several foreign media have covered these events, including in France (RMC Sport, La Dépêche, So Foot), Spain (Diario AS) and the Netherlands (NOS), which demonstrates international notability of these events. the argument that we don't yet know whether this will have a lasting impact doesn't hold water, because the impact is already there, widely covered by reliable secondary sources. --GloBoy93 (talk) 16:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Somewhat ref-bombed, however I've read some of the French articles, this seems like a notable event. There are multiple issues with the article and its structure. The article needs renaming. WP:DMY needs applying correctly for Belgium. Other than issues to address, i'd say keep. Govvy (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge short summary to R.S.C. Anderlecht–Club Brugge KV rivalry This needs a serious edit to summarize what happened and it's well into TOOLONG territory (neighboring countries mentioning the event in rundown form is unremarkable, especially in the EU), and it can be summarized there as just a mention of the club's hooligans taking things too far. I certainly do not want it deleted, but if the article target is inappropriate I can switch it, no issue. Nathannah • 📮 00:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge to above suggested target. There are many instances of sport hooliganism, most aren't notable, this does not seem to be. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets all the general notability guidelines. The riots and the reaction to them extend far beyond the 'usual' hooliganism or rivalry between R.S.C. Anderlecht and Club Brugge. They were widely reported by all Belgian media outlets and received significant attention and condemnation from local, regional and national authorities. Jason Lagos (talk) 13:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge short summary to R.S.C. Anderlecht–Club Brugge KV rivalry - fully agree with Nathannah on this. The title should then be deleted as it's an improbable redirect. Giant Snowman 18:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTNEWS, football related violence is a common occurence. Revisit this in 6 months if there is any WP:LASTING impact. LibStar (talk) 06:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Beni, this looks like a probable No consensus closure, not a closure for an ATD. But it's up to the participants. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, Yes, looks like it's heading that way. Maybe more eyes will make a change. — Benison (Beni · talk) 00:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment oppose redirect as "Clashes in Brussels on May 4 and 5, 2025" would not be a common search term. LibStar (talk) 04:20, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Scott

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Doesn't meet notability WP:Notability Se7enNationArmy2024 (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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del per WP:SIGCOV. The "SWPL Manager of the Year" is an "in-house" distinction of doubtful notability effect. --Altenmann >talk 18:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep were any searches for sources done? I found several. BBC, Edinburgh Reporter, Edinburgh Reporter 2, BBC 2, BBC 3, BBC 4, Edinburgh News, Glaswgow World, Sky Sports Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- were any searches for sources done? Yes - Q back: were any evaluations of sources done? . The the first two of yours are about "SWPL Manager of the Year" and no in-depth coverage beyond "how great a coach he is", i.e. IMHO no SIGCOV. --Altenmann >talk 20:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  I did a search before nominating and came to the same conclusion. Se7enNationArmy2024 (talk) 22:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which (just about) show notability. Giant Snowman 18:17, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Hibernian W.F.C. (team he manages). Not really notable on his own. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Svartner:, See above. Clearly significant figure in Scottish womens football with sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Hibernian W.F.C. per Ramos1990 as not notable and GNG is not met. This is a suitable WP:ATD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:08, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep provided sources shows GNG. 95.98.65.177 (talk) 11:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sources must be independent reliable secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject to meet GNG. Which ones do? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Sources above are Scott's own commentary on his team, passing announcements about his SWPL nom, and other transactional-type announcements. No IRS SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 21:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also want to note my opposition to any merge of nontrivial content. JoelleJay (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Florida Atlantic Owls Hockey Club

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and half of the links are not properly functioning. The only working, possibly independent source is WFLX, and it's not clear that it is sufficiently independent or deep coverage in any case. C 679 03:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not commenting on the massive mess this user is making of biographies, but the WFLX and WPTV references should be the same thing (WPTV partially operates WFLX under agreement). The correct WPTV link is [60] and would be preferred. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep: The sources from WFLX and WPTV references are duplicates, but still count as one independent reliable source for GNG. The six sources from the university do not contribute, and the hockeywriters source is only a passing mention. Flibirigit (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (with work) - Article can be improved and rewritten. WPTV/WFLX source is good. Yahoo Sports source adds to notability but comes from those above. * trvial mention here in larger reading on Florida collegiate hockey. * UPress, independent from the hockey club itself and adds independent coverage. This helps support notability under WP:NORG. Wq4m820 (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC) contribs)[reply]

Aron Reisz

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible keep. I see 13 sources listed in this article, seven on which appear to be reliable web sites or news sources in Hungarian and German. I'm curious exactly where the nominator searched in a WP:BEFORE. Were non-English language articles searched? Flibirigit (talk) 11:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not finding much significant coverage of the player in reliable sources. Significant coverage is only in a hockey blog. There is certainly difficulty in searching Hungarian sources, but thus far my search has been unsuccessful.

Here is a quick assessment of the sources in the article (note: I am relying on google translate for these). Not sure if this will change your mind @Flibirigit:

1,4,8,10,11,12 are from a hockey blog and are not reliable

2: About national team, not player. Reisz only mentioned in roster list.

3: Only appears in roster list

5: Routine game coverage mentioning Reisz goal

6: Routine game coverage that mentions Reisz

7: Page not found

9: Behind paywall; most likely source for establishing notability

13: Only appears in roster list

Given there is only one potentially reliable, in-depth source this article should be deleted as it doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 02:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - found three Hungarian sources [61], [62], and [63]. The last one is tabloidy but the first two seem to be on a legitimate news site. Zzz plant (talk) 12:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nick Agallar

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The subject doesn't seem to meet WP:NMMA, and was never ranked in the top 10 world rankings, highest ranked achieved was #16 according to Fight Matrix see: [64]. Lekkha Moun (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Some coverage here: apparently he won some sort of world title? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cool find. Never heard of Absolute Fighting Championship, I'm not convinced this is big enough to pass WP:NMMA. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oskar Piechota

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Subject has lost 4 of his 5 fights in the UFC, and has been released. According to Fight Matrix, his highest ranked achieved was #48 [65], doesn't appear to meet WP:NMMA. I don't see this article meeting WP:GNG with mostly fights results and passing mentions. Lekkha Moun (talk) 08:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Seems fine for Basic WP:GNG to me with what whats on the article and pt:Oskar Piechota. Govvy (talk) 08:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your vote is based on the Polish wiki article? My analysis has only found fight results, fight announcements, profiles, nothing to establish WP:GNG at all. For example, all four MMA Junkie articles are fight results. Please let us know which source you consider independent significant coverage, because I don't see any. Below is my analysis of all 16 Polish wiki sources in order:
- [66]: Figther profile N
- [67] UFC Rankings N
- [68] Fighter profiles N
- [69] Tapology profile N
- [70] UFC profile again N
- [71] fight announcement/passing mention N
- [72] Routine fight result coverage N
- [73] Event announcement N
- [74] Fight result N
- [75] Event announcement N
- [76] Fight result N
- [77] Fight announcement N
- [78] Fight result N
- [79] Fight result N
- [80] UFC 245 Results N
- [81] Sherdog profile N
Passing mentions and event results are not sufficient to meet GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 17:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Donald L. Ellixson, Jr.

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Non-notable American martial artist. Page is entirely promotional, does not include any reliable sources. Meets WP:PEACOCK. Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:SPORTSPERSON, WP:NACTOR. Cabrils (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Possibly could be kept but moved to draft space for significant revisions...Cabrils (talk) 02:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and salt What the hell is this mess. Blatant vanity page and COI. The full names of the children are listed? Non-independent sources such his own website Ellixson's Tae Kwon Do Academy. This is one of the most flagrant promotional page I have seen on wiki. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This article is a hodgepodge collection of information that fails to show why its subject is notable. Rank and martial arts halls of fame have never been considered to show WP notability, youtube is not a reliable source, and notability isn't inherited from students (who also don't appear WP notable). Discussions of belt ranks, training videos, and tournaments he didn't compete in also fail to show notability and are irrelevant. At a minimum, this article needs a complete rewrite and likely could be salted without WP losing anything. The vanity and COI aspects of this page are overwhelming. Papaursa (talk) 12:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Bow

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Meets neither GNG or NMMA, and as it's the only page the creator has ever worked on, I'm going to say probably a vanity page, or at least some sort of conflict of interest. Nswix (talk) 12:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Rift (talk) 03:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: Bow actually meets WP:NMMA, having been top 10 in the world in FightMatrix rankings in several years.^[1] While the article certainly lacks a whole lot of references and needs to be worked on regarding WP:NPOV among many other issues, it still has grounds to become approved. Ticelon (talk) 09:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I missed that, only having caught his 'last ranking'. Nswix (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Ryan Bow - MMA Fighter Profile, Record, Ranking - FightMatrix.com".

SIGCOV here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Bow does meet WP:NMMA, though I don't know how fightmatrix's ranking system works. He beat 6 unranked opponents when he started to get to #6 and finished 1-5 again top 20 fighters. I don't think that one article in a local paper about him winning a minor event qualifies as the multiple, independent, reliable sources mentioned at WP:GNG nor does he meet WP:ANYBIO. I also grant that there may be more coverage of him that hasn't yet been found. Normally I'd default to the view that meeting WP:NMMA is sufficient, but in this case I think I'll abstain. Papaursa (talk) 23:59, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the guy didn't really beat anyone, has one article in a local paper from before he was a pro, but for whatever reason meets this weird criteria of having been ranked in the top ten at a time when his weight class barely existed, so he barely passes one of the criteria for NMMA... weird. Nswix (talk) 05:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Indeed reads like a vanity page. Lekkha Moun (talk) 19:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The fighter is non-notable, barely any coverage or mention. Even to most hard core fans. I personally think that the Top 10 ranking technicality is voided, and does not make him pass guidelines. I will side with what the majority desires. Lekkha Moun (talk) 17:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Motorsport

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Eric Rhead

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No significant coverage in secondary, reliable sources. Sources currently used are database and self-published. Best source I found was this, but does not qualify as GNG since not from an independent news source Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Doesn't quite have enough media coverage, the best is from Nascar.com [82]. I don't see other media covering this person, so just not enough to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Cody Kiemele

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Cannot find strong secondary coverage, minor part-time driver that relies on database sources for most content Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rick Goodale

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Coverage of racing career is minimal, limited to database entries & generic entry list sources. Anything moderately decent is from his time as a police officer, of which the only coverage received was losing his job, which does not extend beyond local coverage from what i found Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Couldn't find any SIGCOV and I don't belive racing in Arca is inherently notable. Esolo5002 (talk) 01:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have found more sources regarding his racing career as well as his occupation before his firing Finn Shipley (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources you added are not significant coverage. Esolo5002 (talk) 02:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Seems to be a case of WP:ONEEVENT. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 16:46, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandre Berardo

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Fails WP:BIO. A co-driver in electric car regularity rally events doesn't get much notice. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom. Fails to show WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Fade258 (talk) 07:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Bowers

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Regional-level NASCAR driver with no championship wins. Fails to meet WP:NMOTORSPORT or WP:WikiProject NASCAR/Standards. Citations are database entries and an obit. Nothing better found on search. — Moriwen (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Idaho Statesman wrote a great deal of stories about him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are pages on hundreds of "regional drivers", the page could use more sources but shouldn't be deleted. ThunderC12 (talk) 23:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Graham

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Does not meet WP:NMOTORSPORT or Wikipedia:WikiProject_NASCAR/Standards. Regional-level NASCAR driver with no championships. Database sources only. — Moriwen (talk) 19:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 03:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kotaro Shimbara

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Subject does not quite pass WP:SPORTCRIT and a cursory search did not yield anything useful. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There is no indication that @Vanderwaalforces did even a cursory WP:BEFORE search in Japanese WP:NOENG or is competent enough in Japanese to do so. Just the first page of Japanese results include a full-length feature in Motorsport Magazine (which while partially an interview passes for notability), Auto Sport coverage of his Honda Racing School scholarship (also in Chinichi Shimbun), another full feature in JSport, along with regular coverage of his race results. DCsansei (talk) 04:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DCsansei Ah, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Winning a school championship does not count in itself at all, and having sources that either fail WP:INDEPENDENT or WP:SIGCOV do not help too. @JTtheOG thoughts? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely none of the sources DCsansei provided fail WP:INDEPENDENT. You could, at most, class Auto Sport as WP:ROUTINE. MSport1005 (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh no, the publications might not be directly connected to the subject, but those pieces from them clearly are. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Those pieces from them clearly are" isn't a compelling argument. You're gonna need to try harder. MSport1005 (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned, I only looked at the first page of results. Doing a competent WP:BEFORE is something nominators are expected to do, which you've stated you're unable to do in Japanese. DCsansei (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you both provide clear-cut GNG-sufficient sources to establish notability for the subject, then I am still very confident the subject does not meet the threshold. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This seems like a borderline case from a WP:GNG perspective, although Formula Four drivers are rarely notable. My suspicion is that this needs a thorough WP:BEFORE review from multiple people who can read Japanese to resolve the above dispute. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. What DCsansei said is correct, and I agree with the statement made before

Thfeeder (talk) 04:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thfeeder I’m sorry, but your !vote is baseless in terms of policy as it applies to notability, which is what I am questioning in the first place. You’re telling me I do not have competence in Japanese but you’re not bringing any source to justify your stance. If you are competent, please bring the sources and let us evaluate, that is what AfD is about, not to caste aspersions indirectly. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify - I am going to mostly agree with HumanBodyPiloter5 here. It may well be borderline, but we are not at GNG on the sourcing presented so far. The reports that he will participate in FIA is routine announcements of the kind that every racer will get. These are not independent of the subject, because the announcement is not independent, regardless of who repeats it. It is technically primary news reporting, and also excluded on that basis. This can't be used to demonstrate notability on its own. If we accepted this then all F4 drivers would be automatically notable, and there is no consensus for that. So what we need are sources that independently cover the subject. It may also be WP:TOOSOON in that he is much more likely to be notable should he win races. Is there a suitable redirect target? If there is no suitable redirect, then I would suggest we draftify this new page (and this is my !vote for now). We have no evidence of notability, but we have at least the possibility that a deep search in Japanese searches will yield more, and also that he may do well and thus see more coverage. Equally, a very real possibility there are no better sources right now. But if the page creator of this new page can find sources, they could submit through AFC when they have been found. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify Seems new to the game and has not received significant coverage. May indeed be WP:TOOSOON. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:00, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Probably too low in the "minor leagues" to gather much attention. I searched for .jp sources, they all appear to be blogs. This site [83], has coverage typical of this, but that's pretty much it. I don't see enough to show notability. Sources above are as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I continue to believe the GNG threshold is met for this article given the three separate sources I've provided. I'm also disappointed by the comment in the relist suggesting that a competent native-language WP:BEFORE is unnecessary. That would only make Wikipedia's systematic-bias problem worse. That said, if editors don't feel that the subject currently merits his own article, I suggest a merge to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship. DCsansei (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kiyoshi Umegaki

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Subject does not quite pass WP:SPORTCRIT and a cursory search did not yield anything useful. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. I see some significant coverage from Auto Sport and Chunichi for his win last week. I urge nominator to do a complete search in Japanese before nominating (or leave the nominating of Japanese articles to those who can evaluate Japanese sources). DCsansei (talk) 04:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Do you mind pointing me to what point in WP:NMOTORSPORT does Umegaki pass? I’d appreciate it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NMOTORSPORT is a broad indicator of what's considered notable. It's not an exhaustive list and shall not be used as a disqualifier. WP:GNG matters. MSport1005 (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GNG is in fact not met here also. Do you remember what it says about independent reliable sources that covers the subject substantially? These three parameters need to be met for GNG to be satisfied, it isn’t the case here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you're unable to conduct a thorough WP:BEFORE search in Japanese, you're unable to make an early judgement on whether coverage exists. You've stated your case. Now please leave it to others. I'm waiting before casting a !vote for the same reason. MSport1005 (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, leaning delete unless further evidence of notability emerges - Seems like a possible case of WP:ONEEVENT, but I'd need to see evidence of a more thorough Japanese-language WP:BEFORE search before committing to a delete vote. I do, however, find it highly implausible that a driver at this stage of their career would meet the WP:GNG. Neither Formula Four nor Formula Regional are particularly high profile categories (I would personally consider them to be the fifth and sixth tiers of single-seater racing) and drivers who compete in them are rarely notable. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. What DCsansei said is correct, and I agree with the statement made before. Thfeeder (talk) 04:55, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thfeeder I’m sorry, but your !vote is baseless in terms of policy as it applies to notability, which is what I am questioning in the first place. You’re telling me I do not have competence in Japanese but you’re not bringing any source to justify your stance. If you are competent, please bring the sources and let us evaluate, that is what AfD is about, not to caste aspersions indirectly. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. May be WP:TOOSOON. Not really notable from the sources in the article. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify per Ramos1990. Does not meet WP:GNG and at this early stage in their career, very unlikely a deep search in Japanese sources would yield anything. However the page is new, as is the career. If there is early success the sources could follow, so draftify or redirect are suitable WP:ATDs. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. If Japanese editors think they can find sufficient coverage, or believe it will appear in the near future, they can work on it in draft. JoelleJay (talk) 03:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I continue to believe the GNG threshold is met for this article so my !vote is unchanged, and I continue to object to deletion where the nominator has not shown that they've completed a competent native-language WP:BEFORE. That said, if a consensus against keep develops, I suggest considering a merge to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship as an ATD. DCsansei (talk) 05:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncourced, non notable Mn1548 (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amateur sporting organization which does not assert WP:GNG. I found sources online that it exists, but nothing that was third party, independent, nor reliable. Flibirigit (talk) 01:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No notable pro wrestling promotion. quick search shows 0 results. Since it was deleted in 2008, i recomend WP:SALT HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment — Alternative weeklies are typically regarded as credible journalistic sources. Are we disregarding that source because of a dead URL? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 18:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- One source. Per WP:GNG, "multiple sources are generally expected" looking here, there are mostly wikias, reddit and facebook/youtube. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of world champions in WWE born outside the United States

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Seems to be original research and fancruft. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 08:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason as bundle AFD:

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Delete all of them. Those lists are just fancruft, out of scope, and catalogue-like. They are not even acceptable/passable as category. --Mann Mann (talk) 07:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am literally using these lists today as a refrence 71.43.164.34 (talk) 12:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: This information is relevant, taking into account the internalization that WWE has had throughout its history. EnglishLuicheto (talk) 04:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Internalization? Geschichte (talk) 09:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as Mann Mann said, it's FANCRUFT. I though these articles were deleted. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tag team lasting less than a year with very few notable appearances. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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DGUSA The Rebirth

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No notable independent pro wrestling event. Just one source in the article. Quick search shows just a few WP:ROUTINE results. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No WP:SIGCOV ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The reason why I put up the article was because this was the revival of Dragon Gate USA under the control of Dragon Gate. My apologies for not including any other sources but I've fixed it. Added a source for the results BTW. Unknownuser45266 (talk) 02:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Unknownuser45266: The sources you added are still not WP:RS or WP:SIGCOV. They are just the results, which I believe comes under WP:ROUTINE ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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