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Nathan Kiley

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Non-notable musical theatre actor. There are online reviews for a few things he has been featured in (for example, a Jack and the Beanstalk pantomime), but most results are just passing mentions in casting annoucements etc - there was also an article he wrote for The Independent about Alan Turing getting put on a new banknote.

In other words, no significant secondary coverage. Leonstojka (talk) 12:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question: what does GSA in the article stand for? Bearian (talk) 08:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Guildford School of Acting I think Leonstojka (talk) 09:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm at weak keep at this moment. I did a fair amount of editing of the article and added more recent information along with references. So far I have found one solid review and other brief ones. He seems to be mainly doing musical theater now, and I will keep looking for sources. There are more sources that could feed into the article in the sense of comments by reviewers, if that would help. I'd like to hear what others think at this point, before I put more time in. Lamona (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Platinum Arts Sandbox

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Fails WP:GNG Clenpr (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Clenpr:, care to provide a rationale why the sources cited in the article do not meet WP:GNG? In particular, the Brazilian Symposium on Games and Digital Entertainment, PC Gaming Magazine, and PC Format Magazine sources? ~ A412 ^talk! 05:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you find said issues (Total PC Gaming Magazine, February 2009;

PC Format Magazine, issue 232, November 2009)? IgelRM (talk) 18:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article has more footnotes demonstrating notability than actual content, so it doesn't mandate a deletion yet would barely count as a weak keep. MimirIsSmart (talk) 04:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This is currently a case of WP:OFFLINE where the article's supporting information isn't accessible enough to make a call, but on the available citations, it's not very impressive. The Symposium paper is the only secondary significant coverage I can see - the others are primary sources. Again, only on the merit of available sourcing, which would likely change would lean delete absent a search for other sourcing. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 12:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cheboksary Physics and Mathematics School

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Article is entirely unreferenced save for a link to what seems to be some sort of a social networking site in the external links section. I could not find any sources in Chuvash or Russian, that were not simply databases or mentions of the subject in passing. As it stands, this article fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - unreferenced and closed means that it is unlikely to be able to be saved. Bearian (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Croire (album)

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Album fails WP:NALBUM, a cursory search does not help either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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comment I did find this in depth review [1] but not much else and the article is pretty devoid of information. --hroest 17:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article is newly created. SRamzy (talk) 23:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Does not appear to have secondary sources to pass WP:NALBUM. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 23:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found no reviews either, and without this, it fails WP:NOTINHERITED. It somewhat charted, but this is completely fine to only mention on the artist page. Geschichte (talk) 08:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NALBUM#2 appearing in at least two country charts. --hroest 14:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From NALBUM: "All articles on albums or other recordings should meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Where is the coverage? Without that, as you can see, charting doesn't help. Geschichte (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The charting references are to reliable sources in the music industry, which are independent of the artist. SRamzy (talk) 10:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does not constitute "significant coverage in reliable sources". Geschichte (talk) 05:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I created the article because the album forms part of a notable artistic shift for Natasha St-Pier. The artist is one of the best known contemporary female French pop artists, known for her appearance in Eurovision Song Contest 2001, and for a string of hit albums of a strictly secular nature. Her shift to a Catholic devotional theme created considerable comment, as is reflected in the biography on the RFI website: note that this significant coverage in a reliable, independent source. SRamzy (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:SRamzy if this was so significant in her musical biography, there should be a couple of article that discuss this that appear in WP:RS. Could you provide any such discussions of this album in particular and add them to the article? --hroest 19:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm disconcerted by the fact that SRamzy uses such subjective reasoning in their !vote. Significant coverage has been looked for, but not found. The album fails the sigcov guideline as well as WP:NOTINHERITED. Geschichte (talk) 05:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Geschichte you want to unbold this one, since you already !voted above. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Missd that! Geschichte (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete some useful information here and there but not deep discussion regarding this album. Only a couple of interviews, which is clearly self promo, no independent third part coverage such as album reviews. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:41, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rick Goodale

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Coverage of racing career is minimal, limited to database entries & generic entry list sources. Anything moderately decent is from his time as a police officer, of which the only coverage received was losing his job, which does not extend beyond local coverage from what i found Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Couldn't find any SIGCOV and I don't belive racing in Arca is inherently notable. Esolo5002 (talk) 01:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have found more sources regarding his racing career as well as his occupation before his firing Finn Shipley (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources you added are not significant coverage. Esolo5002 (talk) 02:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ReggaeEDM

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This AI-generated article (note the telltale Example text at the end of the URLs) is an exercise in WP:OR. There is a single artist out there, Kevens, who describes his own influences as including both reggae and EDM ([2], [3]). As a result of his self-description, a handful of sources describe Kevens as a reggaeEDM or reggae/EDM artists, but these are all WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS and do not provide WP:SIGCOV of this genre ([4] [5] [6] [7]) None of the other artists listed in the article are described in reliable sources as working in this supposed subgenre. There are no reliable, independent, secondary sources that provide WP:SIGCOV of this topic as a subgenre and thus fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. The remaining sources describe music as drawing from both genres without describing it as a new genre ([8] [9]), or they talk only about reggae ([10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20]) or only about EDM ([21], [22]), or mention both but don't draw any connection ([23] [24]). Other sources are unusable because they are self-published blogs ([25] [26]), non-independent ([27], or are social media posts ([28]). All of this results in a strange fusion of WP:PROMO and WP:SYNTH to fabricate a single artist's self-description into a new subgenre. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - since at least 2097, the consensus has been to avoid adding articles on new genres of music too soon. This is also terribly sourced, which is another hallmark of AI-created pages. Bearian (talk) 00:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Papercut Chronicles

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Could only find a review from Gigwise (dead link via Album of the Year, found no archive for it). Would've fully expected to find more coverage for this, but came up short. Putting this to AfD in hopes that someone else has better luck. If not, redirect to Gym Class Heroes; the album is mentioned numerous times throughout the page. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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One World Radio

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Advertorialized article about a radio station, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for media outlets. As always, radio stations are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to pass WP:GNG on their sourceability -- but apart from one citation to a music blog that isn't a reliable source (and wouldn't be enough to get this over GNG all by itself even if we did handwave it through), this is otherwise referenced entirely to the station's own self-published content about itself, which is not support for notability at all.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the station from having to have much, much better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to Tomorrowland Take away the PR material and you do not have anything that comes close to an article. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Fazackarley

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Article about a ceremonial mayor, not properly referenced as having any serious claim to passing WP:NPOL. As always, British mayors of the "everybody on council gets to be mayor for a year instead of being generally elected to the position" type are not inherently notable enough for Wikipedia just for being mayors per se -- they can qualify for articles if they can be shown as the subject of enough WP:GNG-worthy coverage in reliable media sources to pass WP:NPOL #2, but are not automatically entitled to have articles just for existing. But this is referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability at all -- nine of the ten footnotes were self-published by the city council itself, and the other one is a directory entry -- with not a single reliable or GNG-building piece of media coverage shown at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment He's been a councilor for a long time and as a result, there's a lot of local news coverage in the newspaper. There's been occasional national coverage, but it's all pretty in passing. I find this kind of article frustrating, because I would tend to include them. We could redirect to List of mayors of Portsmouth Jahaza (talk) 18:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - while it's common for political biographies to have a lot of primary sources, this is too much. Lacks significant coverage in secondary sources. I'm not opposed to a redirect, as suggested, in this and similar cases. Bearian (talk) 00:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kargin Haghordum

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A 20-year old Armenian TV show that fails WP:GNG, and currently has no references. The only mention I can find is an Armenian interview from 2010 with the two actors, otherwise no other coverage, significant or otherwise. Celjski Grad (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I've added 3 news refs (plus an interview. I used http://google.am to find them. (one of them is already in our Armenian language article, hy:Կարգին հաղորդում. I used Google Translate to read them. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTKe3SwUHU&ab_channel=KarginTV

It is one of the most popular shows in the Armenian history. 5 million views for this episode (Keep in mind, Armenia's population is only 3 million). Widely considered by Armenians to be one of the best comedy shows of all time. Wrobeli (talk) 03:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:HEY and WP:AGF. I can't read a word of Armenian, but it looks popular and notable. Bearian (talk) 01:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dogan Kımıllı

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Fails WP:GNG. Also violates WP:CoI. Kadı Message 22:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TNT. In theory, a mayor of a city of 250,000 people could be notable, but the SPA who created this mess is not helpful. Bearian (talk) 01:09, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yenne, Indiana

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A crossroads with one farmstead which judging by the aerials has hardly changed in seventy years. So given that it's named after a postmaster, almost certainly just a 4th class post office. Searching produced lots of people named "Yenne" but nothing of substance. Mangoe (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Location did exist, as the article explains. Article is supported by valid sources. If someone ever searches for this location, it's reasonable to locate this article. There's no harm in keeping it, and no specific violation of Wikipedia policy or guidelines to delete it. Truthanado (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see I will have to spell it out. As a rule, per WP:GEOLAND, only settlements get a pass on having to satisfy WP:GNG, which this place certainly does not: it's barely attested to, and by two sources which have problems. Of you will take a look at WP:GNIS, you can see the kind of problems with it that have caused us to disregard its "populated place" categorization as implying a settlement. In this case it's clear that the place was a 4th class post office, back before RFD, when people had to go and pick up their mail rather than having it delivered. We've found these in all sorts of places, and having it someone's house is quite common. That leaves us with Baker's place names origin book. After all this time in Indiana, it has become clear that when he says a place is a village, he's not very reliable about that.

As far as the "harm" is concerned, first off, the WP euphemism of "community" to describe these places is largely unsourceable. It is quite clear after years of dealing with hundreds of these that "populated place" cannot be taken to imply a town or a "community" because there are too many flat-out mistakes, never minding the whole post office thing. We've consistently held that these 4th class post offices aren't notable. "Community" doesn't mean anything concrete anyway. In a lot of cases we can find turn-of-the-century county histories which are generally pretty clear about places where there was an actual town or at least an attempt to have one. The problem in the large is that these articles were mass-created from GNIS without appreciation of its problems, and in some states (though not Indiana so much) the other sources such as place name books were misrepresented. "Community" seems to have been seized upon in an attempt to have people read these places as towns which satisfy GEOLAND without actually claiming that they were towns. So the issue is really about telling the truth about these places, because if truth were told, that many of these were just places to pick up mail, or places with passing sidings and perhaps a station stop on the railroad, or summer camps and resorts, they would be deleted because they don't satisfy GNG. Mangoe (talk) 12:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per GNG, not more than a post office. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Mangoe's detailed argument on the available sourcing failing GEOLAND and GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Just a onetime post office, fails WP:GEOLAND without high-quality sources (a listing of post offices is no such thing), plus all the reasons nom listed. As for "no harm in keeping it", our articles are constantly being scraped for geolocations and to train AI, and keeping nonsense stubs like this is polluting these data with noise. I just typed "yenne indiana auto detailing" into Google and at the top of the list were two Yelp listings for auto detailing "near" Yenne, and only after consulting a map could you determine they were all 50+ miles away. We don't need to be enabling monetized garbage like this by keeping useless articles on nonexistent subjects. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Freaks Like You

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Subject fails WP:NSONG and there are no sources to establish WP:GNG either. There are no critical reception, chart performances, etc, none that I can find from a cursory search. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails the requirements of WP:NSONG. Dan arndt (talk) 09:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge relevant information into parent album Season of Darkness. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Glamarella

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Tag team lasting less than a year with very few notable appearances. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anthony Germain

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Fails WP:POLITICIAN and WP:GNG. After the recount, he is now a failed candidate for office, which is not notable enough for an article of his own. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Zinderboff (talk) 05:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep famous career with the CBC. Rushtheeditor (talk) 05:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Zinderboff. Because he lost the election, this article will not be qualified and fails GNG. Steam5 (talk) 06:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a well-known CBC journalist. This article has been improved a lot since creation. Moondragon21 (talk) 12:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A notable journalist. The article has multiple good sources, and more can surely be found based on his career hosting a number of notable shows. I think we're getting a little too hung up on the fact that he was a candidate in an election - he was notable before that. MediaKyle (talk) 12:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Echoing MediaKyle's comment. He was notable beforehand, but the fact he lost so narrowly after a judicial recount adds to that notoriety. MauriceYMichaud (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Although he lost the recount and thus isn't notable as a politician per se, he already had preexisting notability as a journalist before jumping into politics — seriously, Canadians have known his name since the 1990s, and the fact that nobody got around to creating the article until he appeared to have won election as an MP isn't relevant. Article does need some improvement, but he had preexisting notability as a journalist long before narrowly losing an election. Bearcat (talk) 15:09, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dryad Press

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Does not pass WP:NCORP. Merrill Leffler is notable and if we had an article on him I would suggest redirecting there, but as of now we do not. Searching for sources on the press I found nada. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wild Peony Press

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Does not pass WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. Searching on gscholar, archive.org found virtually nothing except content about books they published, which they do not inherit the notability of. Even for a book publisher there are also not that many hits for their books, it is almost entirely citations to one book they published (which is notable), to an extent where I was able to look through the citations relatively completely. The 4th source is sigcov... but written by the founder of the company. The single piece of independent sigcov is the 5th source in this article, which is [29] this, which is fine. But that is only 1 source. Not enough for GNG or the higher NCORP. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:41, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Creator here. I've added three more independent sources, being a scholarly monograph, an art market paper and an obituary. It seems to me that it constitutes substantial coverage alongside the existing ones, and the fact that new research is appearing on it sixteen years after it closed is a sign of notability. Thanks! Sheijiashaojun (talk) 06:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The monograph has a paragraph, the obituary has 1 mention. The other source has 3 sentences. Not horrible, but not enough to pass WP:NCORP. I realize Mabel Lee has an article and she is the founder so now instead of deletion I would recommend merging to Mabel Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

： Have added another source in Chinese. Of course I understand that the source base is small, but I wrote the article because I couldn't figure out what this press that had published several important writers was. Having figured out via research what it was, it seems to me very much the point of Wikipedia editing to provide that information for others. I can guarantee that it is notable for people working on translation studies in Australia, which I grant you is a small group, but we exist. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't dispute that you made this article for a good reason but the sources here do not pass WP:SIRS (required for organization articles). Notability isn't inherited from the books they publish. If it is merged the information on the publisher won't be deleted. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have added another source that I consider to be SIRS if you care to review. I suppose much of it rides on what you think is 'significant.' There are now four English IRS sources of several sentences and a fifth one in Chinese. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That source is fine. Now we have the two sources about the company, but this is still not enough for WP:NCORP per WP:MULTSOURCES. The rest are one or two sentence mentions, which do not count for notability. The rest of the English sources are passing, and the Chinese source mentions them for a single sentence ( non WP:SIRS coverage). PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be factual, besides the sources you don't dispute (Galik; Taylor), Brennan is by the narrowest definition four sentences and Bruno three (or four if you also include p. 121). The Chinese source mentions them not, as you write, for a single sentence, but two (it doesn't permit copy-pasting, but the section begins with 其中 and goes to footnote 6). In all of these cases the surrounding text also bears on the situation of WP in the translation and publishing environment of the day. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only sentence in the Chinese source that refers to them: "其中A.R.戴维斯的“杜甫雨诗赏析”是我读到的最好最真切的唐诗英译! 80年代初悉尼大学的Mabel Lee(陈顺妍)博士还创立了野牡丹出版社，出版了大量优秀的亚洲文学翻译作品以及早期移民的英文作品比如来自广东的Stanley Hunt先生写的《从石岐到悉尼》" [

[One of the best and most authentic English translations of Tang poems I have ever read is A.R. Davies' “An Appreciation of Du Fu's Rain Poems”! In the early 80's, Dr. Mabel Lee (Chen Shunyan) from the University of Sydney also founded the Wild Peony Press, which published a large number of excellent translations of Asian literature, as well as early immigrants' works in English, such as “From Shiqi to Sydney” written by Mr. Stanley Hunt from Guangdong.] the footnote is a citation and does not contain more sentences. The next sentence does not mention them, only Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Using text on the "surrounding situation" would be WP:SYNTH.

And sentences about Lee that do not mention Peony do not count for information on the publisher. And three sentences in a single short paragraph is also not WP:SIRS ... I can't access anything in Southerly but I would be surprised if the quality of coverage was any different. Most of these sources are really about Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the Chinese source; I misread, apologies. As for Southerly, it isn't fair to make assumptions if you haven't read it. From p. 215 of the Southerly article:

"Considering the decline in foreign language education over the last ten years — especially those languages key to our region such as Bahasa Indonesia, Mandarin and Japanese — it might be said, in Howardspeak, monolingualism is all about a fair go. This is a sad possibility for the broader Australian community, which is in actu - ality richly polyglot. Thankfully, Mabel Lee’s and A. D. Syrokomia- Stefanowska’s work with Wild Peony has been a particular boon, bringing in work that may not have otherwise appeared, and is part of a larger, albeit under-sup ported, effort on the part of Australian translators, native-speaking collabor tors and publishers to offer foreign language literature to an Australian audience. Mabel Lee’s translations of Nobel Prize winner Gao Xingjian and Yang Lian, Simon Patton’s translations, editing and collaboration through the Chinese pages of Poetry International Web, Ouyang Yu’s work with Otherland, Peter Boyle’s translations from Spanish and French, and Leith Morton’s translations of Shuntaro Tanikawa, Ishigaki Rin, and Koike Masayo, along with various Australian literary journals (notably Heat and Southerly), and Melbourne University’s Asialink Program are some of the key recent examples of Australian translators and pub - lishers working against the abashed and embarrassed tide of Australian monolingualism. The publication of collections such as Naikan Tao and Tony Prince’s Eight Contemporary Chinese Poets, and the work of small publishers such as Wild Peony Press, are an important move against cultural parochialism. Sadly, Tao’s and Prince’s anthol - ogy represents one of the last publications for Wild Peony. It is difficult not to think, the Australian literary community might be well served supplementing the proliferation of annual Best of Australian Poetry anthologies with a Best of World Poetry or a Best of Poetry in Translation. Going by Tao’s and Prince’s Eight Contemporary Chinese Poets, the benefits would be considerable." When I say "surrounding situation" I just mean that Michael Brennan (poet) is here substantially talking about the role of Wild Peony (among other publishers) in Australian letters, even when he does not write "Wild Peony" in every sentence.WP:SYNTH does not apply and it is not all about Mabel Lee. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 00:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is about what I expected from that. I think I've said enough words so I am going to let other people comment on if this coverage is WP:SIRS compliant. Nevertheless, thank you very much for the quote. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Toronto Marlies head coaches

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The list does not include any reliable sources which satisfy WP:LISTN. I could not find sources that justify having a standalone list of coaches for the Toronto Marlies, nor could I find any previous consensus that this list should be separate from the team's article. Simply because statistics could be easily verified, that does not make the list as a whole notable. An alternative to deletion is to merge into the team's article. Flibirigit (talk) 22:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Should the table itself be saved onto the Head coaches tab? TBJ10RH (talk) 01:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If the outcome of this discussion is to merge, then yes. Flibirigit (talk) 01:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Toronto Marlies. That article is not particularly lengthy. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Perhaps we can merge via on contents provided here List of Toronto Marlies head coaches#Coaches with a bit of an introductory in the main page. TBJ10RH (talk) 03:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Geneviève Jeanningros

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Fails WP:GNG. She briefly went viral during Pope Francis's funeral, but other than that... she's just a nun. Luxic (talk) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Previous independent in depth coverage here[30], here[31] and here[32]. Pope Francis mentioned her in print[33][34] and she's been mentioned in books about Francis[35][36]. Additional coverage here[37]. Jahaza (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think it's worth noting that all those sources only mention her in relation to Pope Francis (or she's mentioned by Francis himself). I still fail to see what would make her notable in her own right, regardless of her connection/friendship with the late pope. Luxic (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Elixir Press

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Does not pass WP:NCORP. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - searched the typical WP:BEFORE places, newspapers.com, and PressReader - didn't find anything more in-depth than mentions. No inherited notability from association w/ notable writers, and no clear merge/redirect target. Zzz plant (talk) 01:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This is an small, independent press publishing poetry and literary fiction. These publications are not often covered in mainstream press, yet their publications play a role in literary communities. Curious why, with public funding of arts largely stripped in the U.S., librarians being fired, this is the right time to delete a small press from Wikipedia? 174.238.164.181 (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has always required that topics be notable as established via WP:RS. This article was created by an WP:SPA (which usually indicates they likely had a very close connection to Elixir Press) almost 8 years ago. It wasn't appropriate to publish articles on non-notable topics back then, either. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - my 20-minute search for references came up empty. Note that there is another, unrelated press named "Golden Elixir Press". (Note: I think this argument is from User:A. B. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Yes, that was me. Thanks for signing for me. A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 23:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing in terms of referencing that would support notability. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is "Golden Elixir Press" a notable press by these standards? 63.135.182.71 (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure given the current referencing although it does seem to be the primary/original publisher of translated copies of several notable Taoist texts. Whether or not it is notable is irrelevant per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep— many of the authors who have been published by Elixir Press continue to be active and are producing new works. Because of the nature of Elixir’s work as an independent press focused in part on debut authors, several authors may have been lesser known at the time of their publication, but have grown in notability. Agree that to focus on the possible deletion of an article on an independent press is particularly troubling when literature and the arts are being devalued at large. 64.135.133.153 (talk) 22:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Press itself isn't going away, nor are the authors or published works. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of notable topics as established by reliable sources, which this article has always lacked going back for eight years now. If the argument is that it enhances this specific press or helps them maintain visibility, that is directly contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree--it is troubling given premier role this press plays and context: current state of the arts/Wikipedia's purpose/the need for public support of poetry even if things were glorious. It is one of a few presses that new poets DREAM their work will be published by. People in the poetry world look to it too, to identify and read up and coming writers. And they make beautiful books also an endangered art. KEEP! 2601:19B:4102:1370:7097:75E6:4823:96F8 (talk) 15:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep--This is an established small press offering a well known first book prize, which is often won by writers who go on to greater fame. Worth keeping as a listing if you are interested in accurate info about literary publishing, small presses or writers in America. Poems published by this press have been featured on Poetry Daily, The Slowdown and more. 73.61.242.125 (talk) 16:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of works depicting Jesus as LGBT

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Fails NLIST -- no coverage of this concept by external sources. Jay Cubby 22:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for raising this, Jay. I welcome the opportunity to find some more sources for an article I wrote a while ago.
- Shore-Goss, Robert E. (2021). "Queering Jesus: LGBTQI Dangerous Remembering and Imaginative Resistance". Journal for Interdisciplinary Biblical Studies: 47–70. doi:10.17613/9exn-n122.
  Queer folks liberate Jesus’s fleshliness imprisoned within Christian heteronormative and cisgender theologies—promoted by the biblical industrial complex and aligned with authoritarian politics. Queer imaginations have unleashed perverse impulses that reinscribe Jesus within a variety of artistic mediums. Anthropologist Will Roscoe reclaims Jesus in the shamanic tradition of same-sex love, while in Jesus in Love, Kittredge Cherry re-imagines a bisexual, transgender Jesus, who is also an erotic mystic, manifesting a gender fluidity. ... On Netflix, there is a Brazilian film portraying a gay Jesus and weed-smoking Mary. Jesus comes out the wilderness with a young gay companion named Orlando, and they are erotically involved. ... Kittredge Cherry ... worked with gay artist Douglas Blanchard on The Passion of the Cross: A Gay Vision, which depicts Jesus as a contemporary gay man who suffers and dies from fundamentalist Christian hatred in 24 stations of the cross. ... The British transwoman Jo Clifford wrote and produced a one-woman play, The Gospel According to Jesus Queen of the Heaven, at the Edinburgh fringe festival. ... Finally, Terrence McNally’s play Corpus Christi has received threats and protests from the Catholic League and other Christian fundamentalist groups as it opened at the Manhattan Theater in 1998 and was forced to close down two weeks later.
- Martins, Flávio (1 January 2025). "Artistic Freedom and Religious Sentiment". Aracê (in English and Brazilian Portuguese). 7 (1): 110–128. doi:10.56238/arev7n1-007.
  Cases involving satirical cartoons of a religious nature also illustrate the complexity of the theme. ... In the United States, Terrence McNally's play Corpus Christi, which portrays Jesus as homosexual, has faced censorship and protests. ... In Brazil there was a very similar case in 2018. The play The Gospel According to Jesus, Queen of Heaven, written by British playwright Jo Clifford, was staged in the interior of São Paulo. The play presented Jesus as a transsexual woman. ... The case involving the 2019 Christmas special, produced by the comedy group Porta dos Fundos, entitled The First Temptation of Christ, is a milestone in the debates on artistic and religious freedom in Brazil.
- Bádue, Alex; Jay, Jeff (2 September 2022). "Queer performance and indecent theology in the Gospel according to Porta dos Fundos". Theology & Sexuality. 28 (2–3): 112–130. doi:10.1080/13558358.2023.2225369.^TWL
  In 1996 Leo Steinberg described the sexuality of Christ as “Christianity’s greatest taboo.” Those who dare, as Kwok Pui-Lan argues, to touch this taboo almost as a rule meet disbelief, disgust, protest, threats, and sometimes violence. Representations of Jesus in film and drama provide no exception. The First Temptation joins a distinguished list of targets, which include Scorsese’s The Last Temptation of Christ and Terrence McNally’s play Corpus Christi, in which Jesus and the apostles appear as gay men in Texas. Bomb threats against the latter elicited security measures at performances. The erotic life of Jesus, even the straight Jesus but more intensely the gay one, remains taboo, and those who touch risk scorn.
I'll have to look into including some of the ones Shore-Goss mentioned that currently aren't in the list. For what it's worth, even if none of this coverage existed, I'd still argue that this passes WP:NLIST on navigational grounds, namely that it replaced a bunch of see-alsos from the different articles to one another, and keeps them from all needing to be see-also'd from Sexuality and marital status of Jesus (where we're now able to have an easy hatnote for the Gay Jesus redirect). -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 23:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added Cherry's books, but left out Blanchard as failing the inclusion criteria for the list. On which note, I've added a section on talk detailing the inclusion criteria I've been using. Feedback welcome. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 00:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: There's also this source. I'd tend to agree with Tamzin that this passes WP:NLIST. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the image though, the inclusion of which was OR. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No objection there, wasn't my doing. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 00:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - just reports the facts. Bearian (talk) 01:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wreck diving sites of Cape Town

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Article subject appears to be not notable. Refer to policy WP:NOTDATABASE: simply listing a group of related items is generally discouraged. Although WP contains many list-type articles, there is no consensus for the notability "List of diving sites of XXX" articles. In any case, WP:GNG policy requires multiple independent sources that discuss the list AS A GROUP. Noleander (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NOTDATABASE. Azuredivay (talk) 06:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of these are already listed at Table Mountain National Park Marine Protected Area#Named dive sites. While a list of shipwrecks in the region is certainly doable, I agree that a simple list of dive sites is too database-y. Reywas92^Talk 00:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename to Shipwrecks of Cape Town, which implies a slight expansion of scope. Article was nominated prematurely while under construction (and is still under construction). Scope of existing content is appropriate for proposed rename, and has adequate references either already cited or potentially citeable to establish general notability. If anyone wonders why I did not just rename it to the better title, I did, but have been reverted because this AfD is still open. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zionist as a pejorative

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This article is a POV coatrack that lacks a clearly defined scope and makes a variety of elisions. The introductory sentence, "Zionist", "Zionazi", and "Zio" are commonly used as politically pejorative terms by Anti-Zionists against supporters of Israel treats three different terms as if they were the same and fails WP:Verifiability. Some content, if properly disentangled and if supported by quality sources, could perhaps be merged into Anti-Zionism. إيان (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I moved this article last year from Zio (pejorative) to Zionist as a pejorative. Dr vulpes (Talk) 22:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support deletion/merge - agree w/ coatrack, this would make much more section as a subsection in Zionism/Anti-zionism etc. Would still need a rewrite e.g. why is the lead giving weight to ADL's alleging it is being used as a slur when ADL is listed on WP's unreliable sources when being used in contexts of Israel-Palestine and antisemitism? "...general unreliability of the ADL extends to the intersection of the topics of antisemitism and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict." Yours ToeSchmoker (talk) 22:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ToeSchmoker saying that the ADL has a position on something is still in line with WP:NPOV, even if it can't be used as a source. I gave a longer explanation of the policy over at Talk:Gaza_genocide#RfC:_Genocide_in_wikivoice/opening_sentence. Dr vulpes (Talk) 05:16, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would still be inclined to disagree given this part in the opening para of NPOV policy: "all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." (emphasis my own) I stand corrected in that it is not sourced in the lead (FWIW they are however explicitly cited in the Reception section) but given the results of this RfC (chiefly the part re ADL and antisemitism in the context of Zionism specifically) I would err heavily on the side of caution in giving them weight at all in this topic . Ignoring this, there are further issues with sourcing in general e.g. see the second para under History - the statistics (80% and 85% figures) are given in the cited articles but where is the rest of this paragraph coming from? I would hope maybe a couple citations have dropped off along the way but as it stands it does look like an egregious bit of synthesis. ToeSchmoker (talk) 08:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Professional Association of Internes and Residents of Ontario

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Article fails to meet standards for notability as it has not received significant coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the subject SapphicVibes (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - besides the insane typos (AI?) and POV pushing, even under the correct spelling, there is a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 01:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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JOSSO

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Fails WP:GNG Clenpr (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - I have added 2 refs. One is a journal article and the other is a book chapter however the book is published by IGI Global which has a poor reputation. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of single sign-on implementations where it is already mentioned. I'm unable to assess the new sources from A. B. and have not been able to find any of my own. ~Kvng (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Towards Women Participation in Scientific Research in Africa

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No evidence this book passes WP:NBOOK. The only sources are the book itself ([38]) or its authors ([39]), funder ([40] [41], [42]) or publisher ([43]). A WP:BEFORE search turns up no independent, secondary reviews and/or WP:SIGCOV of this publication. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. This is barely even a book - it seems to really just be an 80 page PDF report produced as the output of a summit. Can't find any reviews or other coverage either. MCE89 (talk) 08:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Gannet

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Sources lack independent depth, and the article reads like WP:PROMO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: See this deletion log also. & the provided sources [ SonicScoop, SongChecks, Mixonline] are primarily interviews/industry publications that not provide independent coverage per WP:GNG. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SonicScoop and MixOnline are fully independent publications. Would alternate or additional sources help correct the issue? The article is not intended as promo and appears to read similarly to other Wikipedia pages regarding other notable recording/mixing engineers. 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed what I am guessing may have been the offending sections. Please advise if any additional changes are necessary 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

additional sources included and tonal revisions made 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Almost certainly some WP:COI editing going on with @Konakaimusic and 148.74.79.119. The Music Connection and Songchecks sources don't name any authors, and do little more than reprint his press releases. I don't see any actual in-depth journalism there. Rift (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
148.74.79.119 and Konakaimusic are both me… edits were made from 2 different devices and one wasn’t signed in to Wikipedia. Is that not permitted? Additionally, subject is interviewed about his work in several podcasts, however they are predominantly audio/video. Are those site-able references? Konakaimusic (talk) 03:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Read WP:LOUTSOCK, WP:DBLOCK. If you are disrupting Wikipedia, adding support to your arguments by using multiple accounts/IPs in any discussion and not being open about it, it is not allowed per above and others.

It is an advice to avoid using IP when you have an ID. IPs are also tracked/trackable but your ID grants you certain rights and covers for that. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 12:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. This was in no way done with any disruptive, devious or malicious intent, just a function of working on multiple devices and being a novice on wikipedia. I appreciate the information and will not make that mistake in the future. Konakaimusic (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have not checked that on the page itself. You have cleared the doubts and told about two - IP and ID. Furthermore, avoid using them both again in any discussion, it will look like asserting your opinion by two spaces and may or may not give wrong idea to others. Just as a precautionary measure, don't use IP here. < s> you can use these to strike out IP comments without any space after < or /. </ s > I gave spaces just to show it to you. It will look like this ~~AtrofeliciousGrazzostauras~~.

I am assuming good faith, I believe you. Also, WP:TEAHOUSE is the way to go for when you have a question or doubts! Happy editing! HilssaMansen19 (talk) 18:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding more in depth journalistic resources, are podcasts/tv shows/music videos citable sources? The subject has been interviewed on several podcasts, appeared in many music videos with notable artists and has been referenced/appeared on multiple television programs relative to his career and artists he has worked with. I'd like to add additional resources but would like to avoid making any additional mistakes or adding any unacceptable citations. Konakaimusic (talk) 16:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Share sources here. Other editors will evaluate them. Just go through WP:NMUSICIAN and read the points there to understand the best about sources needed.

Official verified YouTube channels of known RS news magazines or papers or media houses will also work to verify some particular statements and facts for example, their personal life or career or views. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Copy that. Thank you for your help. Will add references here for review. Konakaimusic (talk) 23:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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K-ID (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources consist of funding reports and product launch announcements. ~ A412 ^talk! 20:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I have removed the broken links as well the content to meet WP:NCORP.~~--Kinda89b (talk) 11:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stadion SC Mladost

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Reverted redirect, without improvement. Lots of mentions, but searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to FK Železničar Pančevo – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Svartner. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nerdeen Kiswani

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This article does not contain many actions done by NK, mostly things that have happened to her.

The subject of this article largely organizes local, student protests and does not meet the standards of WP:N. We do not have a wikipedia page for every student activist.

Often this article focuses on the actions of other, notable entities, such as Act.IL, rather than the actions of NK. We're left with a persecutory narrative of a student organizer that flirts between WP:PROMO and WP:SCANDAL via the actions of more notable entities.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamnotanorange~enwiki (talk • contribs) 19:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per WP:BASIC, Kiswani is clearly notable, as evidenced by substantial coverage in multiple RS, including NYT, The Forward, Middle East Eye, Al Jazeera, Times of Israel, NBC News, etc. Rainsage (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Frivolous AfD after much disruptive editing and repeated, unsuccessful POV pushing. إيان (talk) 23:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep significant coverage across many established national sources, this NYT piece is especially in-depth. Subject is clearly not run of the mill student activist or only of local interest. Zzz plant (talk) 16:48, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tallest structures by category

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The encyclopedia already has many, many articles listing tall buildings. The encyclopedia also has many categories related to tall buildings.

This new article has several issues: (a) does not conform to proper title convention (should be "List of ..."); (b) 90% of the facts (rows) do not have any citation validating the facts of the row; and most importantly: (c) this list is duplicative of all the other "tall building" lists already in the encyclopedia... every time a new record is broken, this is one more list to update.

If the consensus is to keep this list, at a minimum it must be properly sourced. There is no lack of sources in the other, existing List articles. Noleander (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I posted the above AfD as part of WP:NPP effort. After making the post, I see another editor, User:Remsense had similar thoughts two weeks ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tallest_structures_by_category&diff=1289324742&oldid=1289202581 Remsense deleted the article and replaced it with a redirect to List of tallest buildings and structures. Then, the article creator returned and re-created the article.

Probably should do that same "Delete and redirect" action again. Noleander (talk) 18:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. Although if you'd like to change the article name to List of tallest structures by category, I have no objection to that.

The article says, for example, that the tallest clock tower is the Abraj Al Bait, at 601 meters. It links to an article with a list of the tallest clock towers, and another article all about the Abraj Al Bait. Those other articles have sources. Although if you'd like to add sources here too, I'd be in favor of that.

It's true that this article is a bit duplicative of all the other lists. But I think it's useful having a single article like this to combine them all, and see how each category compares to the other. One more list to update isn't that big a deal.

For those who are just joining us, this article used to be a single section of a larger article titled List of tallest buildings and structures. Here is how it looked when they were together. But it didn't really have anything in common with the rest of that article (which was the history of the world's tallest structures), so this section was recently made into a separate article of its own, and the remainder had its name changed. Remsense thought they should stay together, rather than being separate articles, which we discussed. But I don't think anyone has previously suggested it should be deleted altogether. This information has been on Wikipedia at its prior location for a long time. It does lack references, but it's a good article, it's been pretty high profile, and a lot of people have contributed to it. - Burner89751654 (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Comparing tall things -- the great human preoccupation. 2600:8806:2A05:1100:1097:AFF5:4FE9:E15F (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep there's no real reason for deletion given here. SportingFlyer T·C 23:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"....this list is duplicative of all the other "tall building" lists already in the encyclopedia". Noleander (talk) 00:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a reason for deletion. SportingFlyer T·C 04:03, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep This isn't a new article, it's a very longstanding article that's been split out to a new name. I don't believe it's duplicative, the creator has been working on improving organziation of tallest building lists recently. More sources are certainly needed but there's no basis for deletion given. Reywas92^Talk 04:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Syed Pir Badshah

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This article fails to meet the notability guidelines as outlined in WP:N. The subject is not the focus of any significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. The few mentions that do exist are passing and do not provide the depth of material necessary to support a standalone article. Most of the sources cited are either not about the subject or use it only as a brief example without substantial analysis or dedicated discussion. Given the lack of notability and meaningful coverage, the article does not justify its own space. Deletion or merging into a broader, more relevant topic (if applicable) would be more appropriate. Retaining it in its current state risks violating Wikipedia’s standards. Jaunpurzada (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm confused about what makes this person notable. Please ping me if you can fix this mess. Bearian (talk) 01:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The given references don’t give significant coverage about subject. Not a single in depth coverage. Google search , hard to find about the subject. Even the write up looks to cover matters which are irrelevant like name of his son. COI can’t be ruled out. Hard to find genuine matters which could indicate any signs of notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Syed Shah Israil

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This article fails to meet the notability guidelines as outlined in WP:N. The subject is not the focus of any significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. The few mentions that do exist are passing and do not provide the depth of material necessary to support a standalone article. Most of the sources cited are either not about the subject or use it only as a brief example without substantial analysis or dedicated discussion. Given the lack of notability and meaningful coverage, the article does not justify its own space. Deletion or merging into a broader, more relevant topic (if applicable) would be more appropriate. Retaining it in its current state risks violating Wikipedia’s standards. Jaunpurzada (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - both the context and sourcing doesn't explain why he's notable. Where are the reviews of his works? Where are the compendiums or other collections? Bearian (talk) 01:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Smoking Gun Interactive

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Disputed PROD. Appears to fail WP:NCORP. Sources mostly relate to Age of Empires: Castle Siege, so I suggest redirect or merge there. IgelRM (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Not mostly. Only three (2, 3, and 4) out of the six sources in article Smoking Gun Interactive relate to Age of Empires: Castle Siege. And the nominator is actually proposing a merger, not a deletion. This should go through the Wikipedia:Merging process, not the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion process. --Neo-Jay (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Khairul Basar

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Two previous deletions in English and then deleted in Bengali Wikipedia four days ago. Obvious promotion attempt based on additional sourcing of YouTube, interviews, and promotional churnalism since last AfD. CNMall41 (talk) 18:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This actor is notable and he has won various awards, including the Meril-Prothom Alo Awards for Best actor, that's enough to keep the article. Aqsis Bey (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The non-notable awards, all of which were won prior to the 2nd AfD? Please let me know what has changed since the last AfD with these awards to make the subject notable under WP:NACTOR. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Meril-Prothom Alo Awards are the non-notable award? maybe there was no sources mentioned about the awards in the previous pages! So, due to a vulnerability editor previously created or single editor repeatedly recreating this article, this "probably notable" will never be accepted? check the career section, i tried rewriting to make it neutral. wouldn't he pass WP:NACTOR for his roles in various films, web series, web films, television drama and short films from 2017-2024? Aqsis Bey (talk) 00:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfDs are not based on what is present on a page at the time. It matters what is available in reliable soruces (see WP:BEFORE). So, my question remains...what has changed since the last AfD with these awards to make the subject notable under NACTOR? I am unsure what you mean by vulnerability of an editor or what its relation to notability is so cannot opine on that comment. For NACTOR, having "roles in various films" does not earn someone inherent notability. In fact, it must be lead roles in "notable" films (commonplace in NACTOR deletion discussions - let me know and I can link a few for you). If they did have lead roles, we still need significant coverage (not just verification) that talks about them in those roles. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CNMall41, why do you say the Meril-Prothom Alo Awards are not notable? From the Wikipedia article, these awards appear notable along with two others awards and Bangladesh is larger than any country in Europe. A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That was a misstatement as one of the awards is notable. The others are not as we do not list awards without Wikipedia pages in film projects. My point is that nothing notable has happened since the last AfD unless it can be pointed out there has (which I cannot see). Also, I am unsure what country size has to do with notability but if you can clarify maybe I am missing something. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Inanda FM

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Fails WP:GNG, lack of independent reliable sources covering this ApexParagon (talk) 14:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, there's enough in Google News and other searches. Sadly, this is another page creation by an enthusiastic editor who possibly in their excitement to create the article has forgotten something very important, references! I'm going to resist the temptation to get in and sort this out and improve it as it will take up too much of my time. I hope some folks can get in. It does have the making of a good article, but this like many others gets nominated for deletion because of lack of refs.
Regards Karl Twist (talk)

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Homeless Link

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I'm unable to find sufficient secondary sourcing for WP:NORG. Of the sourcing in the article, it's almost entirely primary. The only secondary sources are [44] and [45], neither of which provide sigcov on the org. Though it seems like their research is decently well-cited [46], I can't find any secondary sigcov sources. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thanks for reviewing the page.

I have made improvements to the article, in particular finding new secondary sources with adequate coverage of the charity. Roughly half of the sources used in the article are now secondary.

If it is still deemed that the article is lacking in secondary sources, perhaps a fair resolution to this would be to change the 'Article for deletion' template to a 'Primary sources' template?

Thank you very much. Rob235711 (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Microsoft MakeCode

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Fails WP:GNG. Has some mentions but would be better as a merge into one of the many Microsoft product lists such as List of Microsoft software. CNMall41 (talk) 17:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I get where you're coming from, but I think the subject does have enough coverage in reliable sources to meet notability on its own. I’m open to improving the article with better references if that helps. A merge could work, but I’d prefer to try building it up a bit first—worth a shot before removing it entirely. Vinizex94🌍 01:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Geocivilization

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This is essentially WP:OR based on an obscure research article with lots of WP:COI added in. It is tied to the article Ahmed Sarirete that was created by the same user presumably as WP:PROMO and which is also currently under consideration for deletion. Essentially the concept seems to be introduced in this obscure academic article https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/ccr/vol66/iss66/9/ which has been cited a total of 7 times in the last 13 years and does not have seemed to have gained any traction. While not totally made up, most of it is WP:OR or WP:FRINGE with some references to existing topics but the term does not seem to be widely accepted in academia as a search in JSTOR and Google Scholar shows. --hroest 17:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep In marking this article as patrolled, I left a talk page message noting that "geocivilization is frequently used in political science research to discuss how geography shapes politics and vice versa, satisfying WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV for retention." Here are some examples of its use:

Sebastian-Gabriel Popescu (2019-04-25). "And Yet the Black Sea Can Be an Essential Geostrategic Pivot in the Solution of Euro-Asiatic Endogenous Conflictuality". Research Association for Interdisciplinary Studies Conference Proceedings. doi:10.5281/ZENODO.2651185.
Ciderova, Denisa; Repasova, Vladimira (September 2019). "Geo-Heterogeneity in the Context of the EU". European Scientific Journal. 9.
Mohanty, Manoranjan (2018). "Sectional President's Address: Alternative Historiography: Tan Chung's Geo-Civilisational Paradigm". Proceedings of the Indian History Congress. 79: 644–653. ISSN 2249-1937.
"Zan Tao: Historical Evolution of Türkiye and Eurasian Geopolitics". Institute of International and Strategic Studies. Peking University. 19 October 2022. Retrieved 23 May 2025.
Shih, Chih-yu (2013). "Global Asian: China as Position between Host and Home". Sinicizing International Relations. New York: Palgrave Macmillan US. pp. 153–173. doi:10.1057/9781137289452_10. ISBN 978-1-349-45016-9.

While the term is definitely niche, I think it is sufficiently notable given its use across this many contexts and regions. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 03:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Ghoshe

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. Sources are mentions, unreliable, or otherwise not in-depth about the subject. CNMall41 (talk) 17:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NOTINHERITED. First off, we need an analysis of the reviews, if any, of his books in reliable sources. Next, his tenuous relationship with a famous foundation is not explained. Finally, it's too promotional in tone. Ping me if you can fix this mess of a page. Bearian (talk) 01:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is a long list of references but hardly relevant. He has written books but are they notable, Hard to find news about his books. I even couldn’t find any reliable book reviews to understand more about the subject. Neither there are coverage on subject in independent sources. He clearly fails WP:NAUTHOR. Above all article is promoting the individual by language and contents as well. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The article clearly meets both WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR.

The article contains citations from

Times of India – National daily; easily passes “newspaper of record” bar for reliability.^[1]
The Daily Star – Independent, third-party literary criticism → satisfies NAUTHOR #3.^[2]
Indiablooms – National digital news-wire, independent.^[3]
The Telegraph – Independent national daily (mostly popular in West Bengal and the Andaman & Nicobar Islands).^[4]
Trans World Features – in-depth author interview.^[5]

Each of these pieces is non-PR and non-paid. Together they comfortably exceed the two-source threshold of WP:GNG.

Publishing credentials

ISBN citations include works from Rupa Publications – one of India’s oldest mainstream publishers.
N.E. Publishers and Smriti Publishers – both commercial, audited presses (not vanity).

This, plus multiple in-depth reviews (at least on two books), means Victor Ghoshe meets WP:NAUTHOR outright.

Additional evidence of lasting impact

Library holdings: Tomb of God is catalogued in the Kerala State Central Library – the country’s second-oldest public library.^[6]
International distribution: The novel is stocked by Waterstones UK (brick-and-mortar chain).^[7]
Cultural cross-overs: Launches were headlined by National Film-Award legend Soumitra Chatterjee (for Tomb of God) and Sahitya Akademi winner Shirshendu Mukhopadhyay (for Paranormal 2).^[3]

These points strengthen the “enduring, not temporary” aspect of notability per WP:N.

On the Gates Foundation mention

The caption of the image is the only evidence for that collaboration. If this single citation is insufficient, we can remove the claim without affecting notability.

Addressing the objections

Mentions are not trivial: Coverage comes from mainstream dailies.
No independent book reviews: Daily Star piece is a 1 000-word critique; TOI article devotes its entire feature to dissecting plot and historical backdrop.
Tone is promotional: Agreed. The solution is copy-editing, not deletion.

--ParallelDimension (talk) 09:28, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elena 1944

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No evidence film has entered main production, per WP:NFF BOVINEBOY2008 17:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close‎. If there are problems with the other close, take it to DRV. (non-admin closure) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1982 Los Angeles Rams–Green Bay Packers game

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Doesn't meet WP:SPORTSEVENT: "games should be extraordinary and have a lasting impact on the sport". Coverage is largely either contemporary and WP:ROUTINE or online statistical databases. WP:LASTING coverage is restricted to three Packers-affiliated authors, two blogs, and one sentence in a 2012 book. A well-written article, but on a non-notable subject. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1982 Los Angeles Rams–Green Bay Packers game closed 3 days ago as keep. ~~AirshipJungleman29, can we just keep AFDing articles until we get the result we want?~~ « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, didn't see that Gonzo fan2007. Not sure of the procedure from here. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - You are welcome to close it yourself, or I can too, as just "procedural closure" or something like that. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Crowds (adolescence)

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While well-cited, this article appears to largely WP:CFORK related topics like Peer group, Clique, and Adolescent clique. Many of the reliable sources cited in the article refer to "peer groups" or "peer networks", not "crowds". Few incoming links, low pageviews. Merge relevant content to aforementioned articles. 162 etc. (talk) 16:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Gaurav Yadav (police officer)

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Was deleted back in 2023, and despite the non-notable award they received in 2025, still does not pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Albania's role in the Kosovo War

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Unnecessary split from Kosovo War that isn't properly sourced and possivle WP:POVFORK. I don't see any other articles in the format of "...'s role in the Kosovo War". Should be merged back into the Kosovo War page. Laura240406 (talk) 15:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sikhwal Brahmins

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Article fails GNG and mostly is based on unreliable sources like WP:JOSHUAPROJECT and hinduonline.co. The second source is a mirror to Wikipedia content WP:MAF Durjan Singh Jadon (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC) Durjan Singh Jadon (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The article has been significantly improved with the addition of reliable sources, including recent news coverage of Sikhwal Brahmin community activities in 2024. Furthermore, the historical significance of the community is well-documented in published works such as Sikhwal Rajasthan Itihas by N.M. Sharma. Based on these verifiable and reliable references, the article meets Wikipedia’s general notability guideline (WP:GNG). Sahi1up (talk) 15:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sikhwal Rajasthan Itihas is a self published source published by Sikhwal publications (owned by Sikhwal community). 🦅Durjan Singh Jadon (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Although Sikhwal Rajasthan Itihas is a community-published source, Wikipedia policies like WP:RS and WP:SOURCES allow such materials when they deal with non-controversial information about the subject itself, especially when no other comprehensive sources exist. Moreover, Sikhwal Brahmins have received coverage in independent regional news outlets such as Rajasthan Patrika and Dainik Bhaskar, which have reported on community events, cultural traditions, and social leadership. These sources provide significant, non-trivial coverage and meet the standards set out in WP:GNG. While the article could be improved with better inline citations and formatting, the subject clearly passes the notability threshold. Deletion is not appropriate in this case. Sahi1up (talk) 17:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohammad Ahmadi (footballer)

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Since he only played 49 minutes in the highest Swedish league, and continued in the non-pro third tier, it's unquestionable to me that he fails WP:SPORTCRIT, regarding having competed on the "highest level". But does he meet GNG? He has coverage such as [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52]. My opinion is that the coverage is not quite good enough, being a mix of local, interview-heavy, routine and not-significant-enough coverage. Geschichte (talk) 14:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. After reading WP:SPORTCRIT I don't feel the slightest doubt that Mohammad Ahmadi (footballer) doesn't satisfy the criteria for notability. Unfortunately, however, the problem is not unique to him: there are a huge number of footballers on Wikipedia whose notability is highly questionable. The other day I was consulting the List of people from Santiago, looking for Eduardo Frei Montalva, a genuinely notable person. I was surprised to find that 179 of the entries (about 40% of the total) were for footballers. I find it impossible to believe that all 179 satisfy WP:SPORTCRIT. Someone (not me, because I don't know enough about football) needs to undertake a massive deletion of all the non-notable footballers on Wikipedia. Looking at the history of the List of people from Santiago I see that a great many articles were created (and many were rapidly reverted) in an orgy of creativity by 79.55.141.206 during a few weeks of 2023. Athel cb (talk) 16:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Football is the most popular sport on the globe, but the GNG line has to be drawn somewhere Geschichte (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Licence to Grill

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Show that fails WP:GNG. No sources found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 04:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

William Giannobile

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~~Original page creator created page about themselves ~8 years ago; no indication of significance Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)~~[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 04:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Extremely easy WP:NPROF pass. Passes WP:NPROF#C1 based on his citation count, passes WP:NPROF#C3 as a Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, passes WP:NPROF#C5 as the holder of a named professorship at Harvard, and passes WP:NPROF#C8 as the former editor-in-chief of the Journal of Dental Research. MCE89 (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per MCE89. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. based on an h-index of 110, it should be really obvious that he passes WP:NPROF#1. --hroest 17:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. Clearly meets multiple NPROF criteria; in fact, C5 is established in the first sentence of the article! JoelleJay (talk) 17:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Withdrawn by nominator. I was unaware of the separate notability guidelines for researchers and academics, and the self-creation seemed like a red flag -- sorry for not doing my due diligence here. The article is definitely in desperate need of expansion, though! Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 04:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Magic cross piercing

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Completely unsourced. Was not able to find any significant coverage about the topic in reliable sources. Hemiauchenia (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:DICTIONARY - No sourcing. Only a definition of the term, and a link to another Wikipedia article about an online magazine. — Maile (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this an accurate view count? I'd say 86k views is a rather high-traffic page. Regardless, delete - as OP stated, no sources. cheesewhisk3rs (pester) 22:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem to be a real Google trend [53], but it's actual source is a mystery to me. Maybe TikTok? Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, TikTok does seem to be the most likely source [54] Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it’s from TikTok, I provided an explanation on on the talk page. twisted. (user | talk | contribs) 04:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Temporal monotonicity

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A 'straw man' concept and neologism that hasn't significantly escaped the work of Kahneman and colleagues. Only the first two cited references (from that group) mention the concept, and then only to dismiss it. The other references don't mention the concept by this name at all. Ngram search doesn't recognize the phrase "temporal monotonicity". Klbrain (talk) 10:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - this is essentially rehashing original research by Kahneman et al. Bearian (talk) 02:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Could merge a bit to Daniel Kahneman, no? Hyperbolick (talk) 06:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bhil Garasia

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Fails GNG and totally unsourced since long time and have not enough coverage Durjan Singh Jadon (talk) 12:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Bhil, it’s mentioned there ApexParagon (talk) 12:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Center for Arts Management and Technology

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Non-notable research center. No independent and in-depth sources found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 13:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Souliyasak Ketkeolatsami

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Declined prod. All the sources are databases/results and not SIGCOV to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 13:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The coverage would be in Lao, not English. We need to find his Lao name. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Laos at the 1996 Summer Olympics. Unfortunately, I don't know much about Laos-related articles or offline newspapers. Article can be restored if enough significant coverage is found. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tehniyat

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Lack of reliable secondary sources covering this word. BEFORE searches did not find much besides dictionary websites and Wikipedia mirrors. It’s a real word but I don’t think it is covered enough for its own article ApexParagon (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Frederick Iseman

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This article is nominated for deletion due to significant concerns regarding Wikipedia's Biography of Living Persons policy. The article contains a large amount of outdated information but also details of financial details that put this individual at personal risk. The subject is a private individual with borderline notability, and the article's continued existence poses a risk of harm. I urge close consideration of WP:BLP and WP:DELPRO in this matter. Balsamcedar123 (talk) 12:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Balsamcedar123[reply]

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Comment. I reformatted this AfD to remove stray square brackets. The {{Find sources}} links should work now. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think he's notable. If information in the article is outdated, change that information to past tense. This article and the related lawsuit are part of the reason why he's notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have removed the extra square brackets, it looks good now. Fade258 (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep I see no personal financial information that would put the subject at risk, and his past chairmanships are solved with past tense rather that outright removal. Nathannah • 📮 16:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Domdaniel

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No significant coverage for this fictional place. SL93 (talk) 23:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Doesn't have enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. WP:BEFORE is hard here, because domdaniel is also a word meaning "a den of inquiry",[55]. There's also a WP:NOTDIC issue here where the article just extracts WP:OR of various times the word has been used. It seems to have been coined in One Thousand and One Nights, so there could be a valid WP:ATD as a search term. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of mythological places as an WP:Alternative to deletion. This is a relevant place in two works of fiction, which is referenced in a number of younger works of fiction as can be seen in the number of primary and secondary sources both present in the article and especially those appearing in the WP:BEFORE search. This role and connectivity in my view goes beyond a dictionary definition, so this should have some place on Wikipedia. Presence in Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase & Fable indicates that as well. There's a rather extensive discussion in this paper on the Thalaba version. Oriental influences in the English Literature of the early nineteenth century, p. 25, discusses the Arabian Nights - Thalaba connection. Britain and the Muslim World, p. 132 has an interesting one-sentence-comparison to Hogwarts. The secondary sources I've seen in a brief search are short on the Domdaniel beyond the specific work of Thalaba, so I don't think a stand-alone article is warranted so far, but deletion would be a loss. Daranios (talk) 07:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

....or weak keep concurring with Hannes Röst. At least Babylonian Influence on the Bible and Popular Beliefs has an additional background on etymology beyond what's in the other sources or the Merriam-Webster entry. Daranios (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : The article is severely unsourced, but there are many sources about the subject in Google Books and on the web. Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:44, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak Keep : the problem with subjects like this is that we require reliable secondary sources, not just usage of the term in primary works of fiction/poems/tales. So preferably a (scholarly) discussion about the place, not just evidence that the word is used by someone. I found [56] [57] [58] (probably there are more) on top of the three sources found above which is not as in depth as I would like but at least there are multiple independent secondary sources on this topic which should be enough for a short article. --hroest 13:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/merge Any sources I found only mention this term briefly, and not in a consistent way. Sometimes I do see the connectivity but a lot of times I don't. I prefer WP:ATD and we could group these together somehow, if someone can parse out when a mention is related and when it's not. Archrogue (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. The article is a terrible, undereferenced mess. Sources above are meh, as admitted even by the editosr who found them. Np prejudice to seeing this improved, sure, but in the current form it is unacceptable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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HackMiami

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Subject does not seem to be notable upon search - no reliable, secondary sources can be found. PROD was proposed & contested in the past for the same reason, so AfD is the only course of action available here. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - there has been some secondary coverage, most notably, Forbes and The Rolling Stone, but the article's tone should be improved. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - numerous articles and information security listings talk about HackMiami. Some are listed in this article already. Many notable people have talked and participated in this event and has been going on for over a decade.

large sponsors such as T-Mobile have sponsored this event and have a sizable following and was even on the cover of rollingstone H477r1ck (talk) 06:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - This article appears to be promotional in nature, as evidenced by its edit history and previous discussions at Articles for Deletion. A cursory search reveals that the subject, H477r1ck, is actually James Ball, who serves on the board of HackMiami. This raises concerns about a potential conflict of interest, given HackMiami's status as a for-profit organization with a history of using Wikipedia for self-promotional purposes, notably to advertise their conference. Furthermore, the article contains citations that are either unreliable or missing altogether, which compromises its overall reliability and neutrality. In light of these issues, I recommend deletion of this article. LauraQuora (talk) 04:49, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There are many articles about this topic, which makes it notable. Sources are fine. Citadelian (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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1992 NHK Trophy

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Non-notable figure skating competition. I had redirected this article to NHK Trophy, but it was reverted. Recommend deletion or forced redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect I could find nothing significant. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:02, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ilyas El Maliki

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Previously deleted article via WP:AFD in March and nothing has changed since then. The nomination statement in the first AFD and comments therein remain valid. Mekomo (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete G4. Mccapra (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per G4 and the previous deletion nomination. Also salt to prevent future recreations until he actually becomes notable. λ NegativeMP1 13:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Deletion

This article substantially improves upon the previously deleted version by adding verifiable, independent sources demonstrating Ilyas El Maliki’s notability per WP:GNG:

Global Digital Influence: Ranked by Dexerto as the 12th-largest Kick streamer worldwide and Africa’s #1.
International Sports Role: Official chairman of Morocco’s national team at the Kings World Cup 2024, (Video of the game on Kings League's channel), with repeat invitation for 2025 alongside stars like Lamine Yamal.

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While I respect Wikipedia’s deletion processes, I must note the recurring difficulty in establishing notability for clearly significant figures from Morocco and the broader MENA region. Despite providing verifiable, independent sources (including industry rankings and international tournament participation), articles like this face disproportionate scrutiny compared to Western counterparts with similar or lesser achievements.

I urge editors to consider whether this reflects unconscious bias rather than policy compliance. Improve articles, not deleting them, should always be the first option. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or speedy delete per previous AfD, little change. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Deletion

the original article of the subject got deleted because claimed "No real sign of notability", I list a number of sources proving that the subject is indeed notable:

- International Tournament Participation: Kings League World Cup 2025.

- Top 15 Streamers Worldwide: ranked at 12.

- Massive coverage by Moroccan press both in English (more), and Arabic.

if all these still don't make the subject notable, then sure go ahead and delete. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update:

just to add one more thing (a fact and a message):

The first 3 months of 2023, the subject of this article was the most streamed gamer on YouTube, surpassing IShowSpeed, all this achieved through a dialect (Darija) spoken by about 40 million people, not a major language (English spoken by over 2 billion people). But somehow he is not notable!

It's really demotivating to continue contributing to Wikipedia against all these (unconscious) biases. This is not an accusation, it's studied and proved, "Reliability of Wikipedia". We come here with good intention to contribute, but seems like not on English Wikipedia, unfortunately. El Maliki is literally the biggest streamer in all of Africa according to all reliable sources included (like Dexerto).

respectfully, ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (still new here, I just learnt that this is the right term)!

so, since these discussions are NOT VOTES, then it should be that if 1 editor is able to present sufficient RSs on the subject, it won't matter how many spam "speedy delete"

Allow me to list an organized number of RSs testifying to the notability of the subject of this article:

The most watched streaming gamer of the first quarter of 2023 (surpassing IShowSpeed), Dexerto & SVG.
The 6th highest peak viewed stream on Kick's history (Surpassing Adin Ross, he literally had a stream with President Trump while running for office, still got surpassed by a guy speaking a dialect of 40 million people), Dexerto.
12th biggest streamer worldwide, Dexerto.
His Ultra was the first team selected for the 2025 Kings World Cup Club, the official and sole chairman of the Kingdom of Morocco on a world-class international competition, Kings League Pro.
His life largely covered by multiple RS in different languages: UAE's Al Mashhad, Morocco's most popular press outlets and most RSs: MWN, L'Opinion, Hespress, Le360, and much more.

It's not that difficult to look up stuff on Google. Best ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kris Millsap

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Fails WP:GNG. A behind-the-scenes film production worker doesn't get a lot of media notice. He's no exception. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. As I've already told the user before, both in their talk page and in another AfD, they must remember that this is a BLP, so the standards for sourcing are much more strict than the article observes, also. Coeusin (talk) 00:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pixhawk

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currently, there are zero in-depth references from independent, reliable sources. Searches did not turn up enough to show that it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There's lots of results in Google Books and Google Scholar. None of is enough? I could not get access to many of them, so I couldn't fully assess. MarioGom (talk) 13:41, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete The main issue here seems to be lack of independent sources covering the standard. There are quite a few academic references, but the only highly cited papers seem to be the original publications on the standard. If someone finds better sources, ping me and I'll likely shift my vote as it looks like there is some research on this for use in military (i.e. Ukrainian) drone programs. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:53, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aimer c'est tout donner

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Album fails WP:NALBUM, a cursory search does not help either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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keep per WP:NALBUM#2 as this has been on the charts in at least three countries FR, CH, BE [59] reaching a top position of 23 in France. --hroest 14:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep The singer herself has a level of notoriety in the francophone world that probably would make even the most obscure production notable. Superboilles (talk) 07:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why says so? Other sources must decide that, not any one Wikipedia user. Geschichte (talk) 11:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: From NALBUM: "All articles on albums or other recordings should meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Where is the coverage? Geschichte (talk) 11:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect, however if reliable sources that show third part independent coverage I will reconsider the vote. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: I found two good sources with SIGCOV (one already was on the wiki page): [60] and [61]. ProQuest has more results but I don't have full access to confirm their usefulness. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 16:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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United Bengal

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This page suffers from multiple critical issues. It lacks sufficient inline citations for many significant claims, contains confusing structure and presentation, and has an unfocused narrative that blends unrelated historical details with the actual 1947 proposal. Much of the background is not directly relevant to the United Bengal proposal and appears to be original synthesis. BharatGanguly (talk) 10:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep meets notability as major history books, Banglapedia and reliable sources write about the subject. Notability doesn’t depend on what is on the article, it depends on what we find on sources. And we can find plenty and detail information about the subject on the reliable sources. If there is any issue on the article then that can be fixed by editing but deleting the page for these issue is not a good idea and not aligned with policies. Mehedi Abedin 10:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mehedi Abedin: The reliability of Banglapedia as a source is not yet well established here, and it may not meet Wiki standards for high-quality academic references. Banglapedia is weakly reliable not highly reliable. Chronos.Zx (talk) 13:41, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Chronos.Zx Banglapedia is not weakly reliable as it is an encyclopedia published by Asiatic Society of Bangladesh and its articles are written by scholars from all over of Bangladesh. We can't call this as weak source. Mehedi Abedin 00:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nominator rationale. Article is very confusing to me, more like a mixture of OR and unrelated content. Chronos.Zx (talk) 13:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject "United Bengal" itself is not obviously WP:OR and supporting its deletion because the article has "a mixture of OR and unrelated content" (when the issues can be resolved by editing) is not policy based argument. Mehedi Abedin 00:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the Background section is a but over elaborate but the concept seems notable and well documented. Mccapra (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Quick search shows that it is something highly discussed in scholarship Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: per Mehedi Abedin 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: per Mehedi Abedin — Cerium4B —Talk? • 09:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per Mehedi Abedin. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 10:41, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rangamati Government High School

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Upon search, I don't think that the school is notable enough to warrant a standalone article. As far as my search, I don't see any reliable, secondary coverage, and the current state of the article also primarily cites their own website. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Usually Bangladeshi education institutions in the Chittagong Hill Tracts does not have secondary coverage. Education institute outside Dhaka are usually area-wise popular. Like this one is a well-known in Rangamati. Additionally, this is the first & oldest school in CHT. Notable alumnis also studied here. WinKyaw (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The school doesn't have secondary, reliable coverage though, as you said in your reply. As @Hannes Röst said, just because a school exists, it does not automatically confer any notability onto the school. The school needs to be notable enough to warrant its own article, and the school clearly does not pass WP:NSCHOOL at this very moment. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It seems to be one of the 64 government high schools located in the 64 districts of Bangladesh. The locals reckon that these schools are quite the talk of the region within their respective districts. Somajyoti ✉ 16:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete there is no indication of passing WP:NSCHOOL, there are no secondary sources that I could find in books that go beyond trivial coverage. There are some sources on a formar headmaster but mentions the school in one line. The arguments of User talk:Somajyoti and User:Win Kyaw boil down to WP:SOURCESMAYEXIST which is not sufficient. Similarly the fact that notable alumni have studied here does not make the school notable by itself. @User talk:Somajyoti and @User:Win Kyaw, please see this RFC which was discussed in great length and concludes that High schools are not inherently noteable and that reliable independent WP:SIGCOV needs to exist for them as well, which I dont see here. There simply isnt any coverage that we could use to write an article. --hroest 20:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet WP:SIGCOV, and has no relevance in the broad encyclopedic perspective, not passes WP:NSCHOOL. Simply, if a school is known in local area (most probably by students and their guardians), it is not encyclopedic. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 09:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Umama Fatema

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New activist and politician, article fails both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 03:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait as per WP:NPOL: not a politician who has served in a federal government. WP:TOOSOON to say if she will become more notable

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Or Draftify might be a better option DankPedia (talk) 04:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete : lack of notability. Failed WP:GNG. SRL1122 (talk) 08:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: It does not meet the criteria of WP:GNG. I see no reason to keep the article on Wikipedia. Somajyoti ✉ 08:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Mehedi Abedin 19:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Students Against Discrimination. As a spokesperson, she fails NPOL, but as one of many, she's sort of notable. She received 30 minutes of fame. No harm to merge and redirect. Bearian (talk) 02:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete At best, this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Perhaps in just a little more time this article would be ready for primetime but at this point I do not think it meets WP:GNG. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 20:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Students Against Discrimination per Bearian. She played a major role in the July Revolution while being part of the Students Against Discrimination, yet there is no mention of it in that article. ✗plicit 06:41, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:TOOSOON, fails WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 16:37, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Odee Company

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This article was written by Buzz Tatom who worked for the company and admitted to it in the AfD back in 2005. And it does not appear to be any major coverage about the company since despite being made in 1923. GamerPro64 07:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abhishek Malhan

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Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NYOUTUBER. No lasting, independent coverage in reliable sources. Purely social media fame WP:NOTPROMO applies. BharatGanguly (talk) 09:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I would like to see significant coverage. What we have now are just news items. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 08:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Manisha Rani

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Sources cited are short entertainment writeups, interviews, and tabloid style pieces that lack depth, independence, and sustained coverage. There's a heavy reliance on promotional content, social media mentions, and news aggregators, rather than neutral, in-depth profiles by reliable third-party sources. BharatGanguly (talk) 09:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The AfD discussion in February 2025 was keep. What has changed since then? DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Takuma Nakajima

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Previously deleted. No trace of notability, only 1 match on J League level. Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doda (footballer)

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and not really anything resembling a claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I didn't find anything about him even in databases. Svartner (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dodô (footballer, born 1990)

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Fails GNG and SPORTCRIT due to his career never getting off the ground, recording mere minutes of play in his many clubs, and lack of significant coverage. Geschichte (talk) 09:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He was runner-up in the J-League with Gamba Osaka, but I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chief of the General Staff (Bangladesh)

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The article has only two sentences and four references, the references do not say anything about the sentences. PauKau (talk) 02:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Probably keep~~ - there's a lot of information on the page which isn't properly sourced, however this appears to be a high level military position to which appointees are recognised in the national media. I don't speak local languages but I suspect there are likely to be more sources about the position in non-English sources.

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Actually rereading the previous AfD from Dec 2024 I agree that this isn't ready for mainspace. There are too many asserted facts that are unreferenced. Draft until all those can be sourced. JMWt (talk) 07:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The claimed speeches of the article do not have any reference, the given references do not say anything behalf of the claimed sentences. Moreover, the information given in the infobox are unreferenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.39.110 (talk) 12:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TruVista Communications

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No reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ProtobowlAddict ^talk! 02:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - There are sources showing it exists, but nothing that comes close to WP:ORGCRIT. I found it strange that a company claiming to be more than 100 years old has no online presence. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Chester Telephone Company was started in 1897 as privately-owned independent telephone company to serve the small rural town of Chester, South Carolina. In the 1980s, it was one of the investors in a successful regional fiber network, PalmettoNet,^[62] that sold broadband capacity and dark fiber to large long distance telecoms and big corporate users. It also began acquiring small cable TV systems and now says it serves about 60,000 customers.^[63] Over the years, Chester Telephone, then TruVista got industry coverage for deploying new (at the time) technologies.^[64] TruVista was purchased by a big private equity firm, iCON Infrastructure, in 2019 and operates autonomously. ^[65] I personally think we should have an article about this company since it's part of the history of rural telecommunications. I know it would meet WP:GNG. However, companies have to meet Wikipedia's much more restrictive WP:NCORP guideline which effectively disqualifies most otherwise reliable press coverage (including major events such as "the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business") from notability consideration. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you have the sources that meet WP:ORGCRIT (regardless of what name it was at the time), then it would meet NCORP. Makes sense that it had numerous name changes since there really isn't anything out there under the current name. I would be happy to change my vote if you can provide the links. I do not have access to ProQuest unfortunately though. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Big Four (cycling)

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Some sources will speak of a big 6, others of a big 3: this is arbitrary and very fleeting. Unthinkable to many to suggest that Matthieu van der Poel is not part of the biggest n riders at the moment. A few years ago there was an entirely different top few riders, in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more. Nothing of lasting relevance: this is a no more than a questionable snapshot of standings in the sport right now. Kevin McE (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand there are probably one-off cases of sources using "Big N" to discuss random groups of riders, but considering there are multiple independent sources (e.g. [66] [67]) that define the term (not just mentioning it in passing), there are articles that discuss inclusion in the group (Is Remco Evenepoel Part of Pro Cycling’s ‘Big Four’?), and sources that refer to coverage of the group ([68] references "the much-talked about 'Big Four'"), I think this rises beyond an "arbitrary" grouping.

There has been usage of the term for this specific group of riders for nearly a year and a half (since December 2023), and frequent usage by many different organizations since the 2024 Tour de France, which I feel is more than "very fleeting". It would be a different conversation if I had created this article immediately after the 2024 Tour, but considering usage has continued and frequently appears in articles and previews for 2025 events (for example, these two previews for the 2025 Giro d'Italia starting this weekend both mention the Big Four: [69] [70]).

Mathieu van der Poel is not a GC contender for stage races, which is likely why he is not included in this grouping, which the article (and quoted sources) make clear is about success in stage races and Grand Tours, not a general group of "top riders" Verylongandmemorable (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Already commented but just wanted to add: I think the argument that "in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more" conflicts with WP:CRYSTALBALL. Whether or not these riders are successful in the future, the term is widely used currently and has been defined since 2023. Assuming that it will be forgotten is not a prediction we are able to confidently make (and IMO is a bold prediction considering 3 of the 4 riders are 28 years old or younger) Verylongandmemorable (talk) 23:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple reliable sources are included in the article, specifically referring to the term Big Four.[71][72][73][74][75][76][77] Please provide sources to support the claims of Big 6, Big 3, et cetera. Flibirigit (talk) 22:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. As per above, there are multiple independent reliable sources which reference "Big Four" in cycling, and no sources have been provided to the contrary. Flibirigit (talk) 23:05, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Big 6: [78], [79], [80], [81], [82], [83] and many more [84]

Big 5: Not as common, but drop in form of Wout van Aert (one of the six) will probably make it more common in the future [85]

Big 3: [86], [87]

Previous big four: [88], [89]
Phrase is incredibly flexible and transient: a journalistic device but not a meaningful and lasting concept. Kevin McE (talk) 07:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the additional sources to consider. However, there's a significant difference in coverage between the "Big N" examples you've provided, and usage of "Big Four" to refer to the grouping of Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel, and Roglic. It isn't just used within cycling media, but in mainstream, highly reliable sources, for example:
New York Times (via The Athletic): "INEOS Grenadiers have none of the sport’s big four on their books — Tadej Pogacar, Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic — who are currently the only men realistically able to win the Tour de France."

The Independent: "And with three of the so-called ‘Big Four’ absent from the race, the door appears wide open for Roglic to regain the crown he won two years ago ... It’s hard to look past Roglic taking home the pink jersey given he’s the only member of the so-called ‘Big Four’ who’ll ride in Italy."

The Guardian: "Pogacar, one of cycling’s “big four” stage race riders – Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic are the other three"
Also, I'm a bit unclear on why the existence of a "Big Six" of cycling or "Big Three of the Classics" would negate the notability of this specific "Big Four" as an encyclopedic topic. The sources referenced in this discussion and in the article clearly delineate this quartet and their domain (stage races such as Grand Tours). As an analogy, if in men's tennis there was a future "Big Two" or "Big Six" that received significant coverage, would that erase the notability of the Big Three (tennis)? It could be worth noting in the article that a previous quartet of riders was referred to as the Big Four, but the articles you have sent are from 2015, so confusion with the current, widely discussed grouping of Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel, and Roglic is unlikely. The current "Big Four" has seen consistent definition and coverage for the last year and a half. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 17:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The point of mentioning the Froome/Quintana/Contador/Nibali top 4 is to give evidence that this is just a temporary grouping, as there have been in the past and will be in the future.

In the tennis example, there might be grounds for saying that they are historically all historically great players (I don't really follow that sport): but by what grounds are Vingegaard and Evenepoel being positioned as historical greats in relation to grand tours?

I acknowledge that it is a phrase used by journalists, but that does not mean that it is a concept of any durability or lasting significance. In the time I watched soccer there have been numerous different permutations described as the big 4 of English clubs: Everton used to be among them, Man City certainly weren't. Lazy journalistic phrases describing a short-lived status quo make very poor justification for encyclopaedic entries. Kevin McE (talk) 18:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Akunna

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Fails WP:GNG. Not seeing significant coverage in sources on an internet search. Might also be considered a DAB page with only one article matching the name. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 05:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

redirect. sourced from anonymous website. Weirdly, the website defines it as as female given name, but the only entry is a man :-) (I know, there is a Boy Named Sue, so why not be a boy named Akunna; I am just picking on the quality of sourcing). --Altenmann >talk 05:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Altenmann @JackFromWisconsin The name Akunna is actually commonly regarded to be unisex, and is predominant in the southeastern region of Nigeria. Verifiable sources are here, here, here and here. King ChristLike (talk) 06:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, none of these sources is acceptable for wikipedia. --Altenmann >talk 06:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Name not significant or widespread enough to merit it's own article. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 22:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep?: I did find sources suggesting there's been some feminist analysis of the name:
- Language, Identity and the Cultural Context of Names in Selected Nigerian Novels in International Journal of Language and Literature 6(1) highlights it as a name referring to parents, noting The name Akunna - Father’s wealth (Apart, p. 128) may be viewed as sexist by some as it traditionally portrays the girl child as a father’s means of acquiring wealth mainly through marriage. However, the name may at present be interpreted as indicating that women have come of age and a woman can also change the fortunes of her parents.
- A STUDY OF IBUSA NAMES: GENDER, MEANING, AND ATTITUDE in Marang: Journal of Language and Literature Vol 35 (2022) says this: Names denoting wealth that are associated with males favour them, while those associated with females disfavour them. ... Women are subjugated because they are associated with the following names: Akunna ‘father’s wealth’, Ogbeyeanu ‘a poor man will not marry my daughter’, and Egobuokwu ‘money talks or money is the trouble’. These names advertise the female child to the highest bidder. The female names convey the notion that having a girl child in the family enhances wealth through marriage. This practice perpetuates the feeling of dominance by men over women.
- I can't access the contents of this book, Politics and Identity Formation in Southeastern Nigeria, but it does mention the name and its meaning, and may therefore have useful coverage of it.

That's not a lot, but it also gives us something substantive to say about the name. I'd expect more coverage in Igbo sources as well. I'm on the fence here, but it seems like there is potential so I slightly lean keep. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Extended reality

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Taking to AFD as a courtesy for further consensus. Whether this topic is genuinely distinct from virtual reality, mixed reality, and augmented reality has been disputed by an editor. The editor has attempted to make WP:BOLD mergers of this page into augmented reality, under an argument that the topic of "extended reality" is only synonymous with augmented reality, and that "pages should represent real things, rather than concepts that only exist in academia". ViperSnake151 Talk 01:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete clear original research. --Altenmann >talk 06:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's a high amount of coverage in academic sources (papers and books), a dedicated academic conference (International Conference on Extended Reality), IEEE participation, coverage in publications in journals from various fields (Computer Science, medical practice, geo-information). MarioGom (talk) 13:37, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage of what? Augmented reality and virtual reality? The concept of "extended reality" is simply a buzzword. JustMakeTheAccount (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is not about your opinion (or anyone else's), it's about what reliable sources say. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Convert to disambiguation page. After all, Extended reality is a GROUP of things, and that's what a disambiguation page is for, I think. I have made a draft for it. SeaDragon1 (talk) 14:11, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, not as a DAB. I find quite a lot of high-quality scholarly sourcing that assesses XR overall. See [90] [91] [92] [93]. They are especially common for subject specific applications, like education, medicine, spines, and architecture. I agree that it's an umbrella concept for VR/AR/MR, but one of the key goals of an umbrella concept is that it allows us to discuss a group all at once; since there are sources about XR at the big-umbrella level, they give the topic standalone notability. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pre-Finno-Ugric substrate

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This is a bit of a difficult one. This page covers perhaps four separate topics - the Paleo-Laplandic Saami substrate (which to a lesser extent also occurs in Finnic), the substrate in the Finno-Permic languages (which here is misleadingly described as the Finno-Volgaic substrate even though it also occurs in Permic), the issue of toponyms in Finland, and the substrate in the Nganasan language. Combining these substrates into a single topic of "Pre-Finno-Ugric substrate" is not notable, but the topics individually may have some notability. The Paleo-Laplandic languages topic already has its own article, and the information about the Finno-Permic substrate should probably go to the article about Finno-Permic languages. Toponyms in Finland could maybe get its own article, and the discussion about the Nganasan language can just go to the language's article. Stockhausenfan (talk) 08:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose: the term is definitely used at least in Russian-language publications (i.e. Eugene Helimski used it as an umbrella term for 5 separate but related topics) and it's no less legitimate than, say, "Pre-Indo-European languages" or "Pre-Greek substrate". By the way, what I've read on the substrate in Finno-Volgaic languages (Zhivlov & Aikio) make only very few mentions of similar substrate word in Permic. Finstergeist (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In this paper Aikio gives several examples that have Permic cognates, see pages 45-46, and he specifically mentions this:

"a surprisingly large part of the vocabulary traditionally reconstructed for

‘Finno-Volgaic’ and ‘Finno-Permic’ (UEW: 605–827) involves irregular sound cor-

respondences and other etymological difficulties."

I.e. Finno-Permic is specifically mentioned (also Finno-Volgaic, but that is a subset of Finno-Permic, and the vocabulary there has the same features such as abundance of š).

Stockhausenfan (talk) 21:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - it's well-sourced in the literature. Bearian (talk) 03:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep umbrella groups often have their own articles, see for example Pre-Indo-European languages. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Franz Abbé

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Fails WP:NSPORTS due to lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. The only sourcing is Olympedia and SR (which is to say, the same source) both of which do not satisfy WP:NSPORTS.

WP:BEFORE is rendered difficult by the existence of the composer Franz Liszt (known as "Abbé Liszt" due to his monk-like haircut), but nothing found on Google or Internet Archive other than passing mentions.

The DE Wiki article is an object-lesson in why editors should not engage in original research in primary sources: no we are not in the business of piecing together someone's life story based on marriage/death certificates and entries in the address book that could easily be about someone with the same name! The only not-primary sourcing in the DE Wiki article is this passing mention and this passing mention. FOARP (talk) 08:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Olympedia gives a decent paragraph, noting among other things that he designed a house that was temporarily the residence of Albert Einstein(!). It seems highly likely there's more to find here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"he designed a house that was temporarily the residence of Albert Einstein(!)" - Beannie, Einstein was a totally unknown student when he lived in a small room in that apartment block. Being the architect of a building that someone who decades later became famous temporarily lived in is not even slightly a plausible claim to notability. FOARP (talk) 08:16, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While I haven't looked extensively for sources and am currently neutral in this discussion, it should be noted that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. Let'srun (talk) 13:48, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I never said he "inherits" notability from building a house for Einstein, I only said it strongly indicates there's more to find. BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1173 Polonnaruwa invasion of Chola

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Doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines; lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. This submission, or separate article, appears to be either a duplicate or unsourced fork of larger themes such as Chola–Polonnaruwa relations in general. There is no indication of historical significance worth having an article on its own. BharatGanguly (talk) 08:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Elvish Yadav

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His win in a reality show (Bigg Boss OTT 2) and some online controversies have received temporary media attention, but these do not amount to the kind of sustained, independent coverage needed to demonstrate long-term wiki article. The article also leans promotional in tone, with excessive detail on YouTube milestones and trivial career facts, which goes against WP:NOT and WP:BLP. Being internet famous is not inherently equivalent to being notable by Wiki. BharatGanguly (talk) 08:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I agree with the nominatior that his career is smaller than the controversy section. And doesn’t pass notability. But the given sources suggest he received significant coverage in multiple secondary sources which compound to Wp:GNG. I believe the sources should be checked carefully and evaluated if they really are reliable sources or just puff pieces and. wp:CHURNALISM and Wp:QUESTIONABLE. Zuck28 (talk) 08:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Upon observing this article, I'm not confident about the article blog-style reporting & entertainment coverage lacking editorial oversight. Well, per WP:NYOUTUBER, mere social media popularity and viral fame is insufficient. Notability come from lasting, third-party recognition in RS which is absent here. This is a clear case of WP:NOTPROMO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 08:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom and comment above. Media Mender 📬✍🏻 10:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This is (unfortunately) a close call because he has received a fair amount of media coverage but for all the wrong reasons. As said by folks above, more significant coverage of his "career" is needed per WP:NYOUTUBER, while the reports he received for various acts of shameless self-promotional desperation are numerous but largely WP:CHURNALISM. Gotta admit that he knows how to get fleeting mentions of his name in the tabloids though. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources already in the article about his youtube channels and winning an Indian version of Big Brother. Editors probably sympathetic to him have repeatedly tried to remove the controversy section so I suspect the deletion of this article would aid that censorship attempt, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gupta–Kidarite conflict

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Lacks notability as a standalone topic; minimal sourcing, limited content, and better covered within broader articles like Gupta Empire or Kidarites. Duplicative and does not meet WP:N. BharatGanguly (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Archaeological area of Corte Sgarzerie

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Utterly redundant, repeating what is in Corte Sgarzerie#Archaeological area. Neither page is particularly long. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as ATD. Mccapra (talk) 08:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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You don't need an AFD to do a WP:BOLD merge/redirect of an obviously redundant page. Reywas92^Talk 19:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eyre Evans

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Barely even gets a mention in genealogy lists. Practically the entire page is about his relatives, along with the sale of (presumably) his estate decades after his death. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.Mccapra (talk) 08:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there is really nothing about the subject in the article and nothing substantial found. ww2censor (talk) 11:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Yaqub

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Subject does not appear to passWP:NPROF. The sources in the Arabic Wikipedia article aren’t any help. Mccapra (talk) 03:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: WP:NPROF Criterion 6c "Lesser administrative posts (provost, dean, department chair, etc.) are generally not sufficient to qualify under Criterion 6 alone, although exceptions are possible on a case-by-case basis (e.g., being a provost of a major university may sometimes qualify). Generally, appointment as an acting president/chancellor/vice-chancellor also is not sufficient to qualify under Criterion 6 alone." is specific. I see no evidence of any other criteria being passed. Fails NPROF and WP:BIO 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 06:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't see a pass of Wikipedia:NPROF or of Wikipedia:NAUTHOR at all. Qflib (talk) 14:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

weak delete this seems to be hard to evaluate due to lack of sources in English, but it seems that he has entry in this encyclopedia on Arabian linguists which indicates notability. I am not convinced that we can use google scholar to easily assess Arabic linguists as easily as scholars at a Western University. What makes me skeptical is that I could find almost no information about the Suleiman International University where he supposedly works (apparently its an online university). --hroest 16:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The standard for notability is a bit higher than just having been listed in an encyclopedia, unless I'm missing something here, in which case please advise. Qflib (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it depends on the encyclopedia, if its a scholarly work I would argue that this indicates notability per WP:NPROF. --hroest 11:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have added Arabic sources to the article. The subject has clear notability in the Arabic academic community and is the author of significant linguistic dictionaries. -- Mohammed Qays (🗣) 18:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are there multiple reviews of at least two of those? If so, subject might be notable under Wikipedia:NAUTHOR, but otherwise, just being an author isn't sufficient to establish notability here. Qflib (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Mohammed Qays for non-arabic speakers, can you please elaborate a bit on the sources you added? Are they WP:RS, how are the dictionaries significant (what is their reception in the field? how is this documented with citations / reviews?). It is just really hard to make a judgement in a field and a language that I am not familiar with. --hroest 11:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment the sources added are 1. A link to the catalog the national library of Israel 2. An offline encyclopedia entry 3.a piece of local press coverage. Nine if thus comes close to demonstrating a pass of Wikipedia:NPROF or of Wikipedia:NAUTHOR. Mccapra (talk) 08:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Behrad Ali Konari

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I am not sure that getting arrested and then released is sufficient basis for a claim of notability. The subject’s arrest certainly generated media interest at the time, but WP:BLP1E may apply. Mccapra (talk) 04:04, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per WP:BLP1E

DankPedia (talk) 04:33, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

keep Contrary to what some esteemed colleagues have suggested, this biography is not based on a single event. In fact, it is expandable, and there are sufficient sources available to support its development. For example, in this source, you can see that the individual in question was imprisoned again two years after the initial incident and release, this time due to their artistic and protest-related activities. ^🅣𝓗𝓪𝓻𝓸𝓵𝓭 𝓚𝓻𝓪𝓫𝓼 16:50, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tough one, but I'm leaning keep. Not a low-profile individual; ongoing protest activities; a fair bit of coverage by the rather challenging standards of coverage of anti-hijab protesters in Iran. We're a little bit over my personal threshold for keeping a biography.—S Marshall T/C 08:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Support per WP:BLP1E Iranian112 (talk) 02:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify by an Admin per WP:R2 and possible bad-faith nomination‎. (non-admin closure)---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tacoma (band)

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO, WP:SIGCOV. Declined at draft (non-notable). No social media, streaming. No coverage. Refs are band interviews. scope_creep^Talk 11:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

:*Keep – Tacoma is an active Canadian country band with festival credits including the 2021 Cars and Country Stars Music Festival, where they were reviewed as a breakout act.^[8] They’ve performed at major Alberta events such as the Southern Alberta Music Festival and Ol’ MacDonalds Resort Music Festival, and are currently receiving radio support. Additional independent coverage is being gathered to support notability. Socials are very active and being added as the process is being further understood.

References

^ "Kolkata gets its own Da Vinci Code version with Charnock fiction". The Times of India. 12 March 2016. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ "If Only Job Charnock Knew!". The Daily Star. 28 May 2017. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ ^a ^b "Actor Soumitra Chatterjee launches Victor Kalyan Ghoshe's latest novel". Indiablooms. 22 Mar 2016. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ "Shirshendu Mukhopadhyay launches author Victor Ghosh's latest book Paranormal 2". The Telegraph. 11 Jun 2023. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ "The Job Charnock Riddle is written as a visual treat: Victor Ghoshe". Trans World Features. 22 May 2016. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ "Tomb of God". Kerala State Central Library catalogue. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ "Tomb of God". Waterstones. Retrieved 24 May 2025.
^ Street, Jamie (2021). "Tacoma Brought Down the House at Cars and Country Stars 2021". Cars and Country Stars. Retrieved 2025-05-15.

—Xsbucks (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC) Xsbucks (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They are completly uknown almost and festival credits doesn't make them notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Tacoma is a Canadian country rock band that meets the notability criteria at WP:MUSICBIO through independent, non-trivial coverage. Their performance was reviewed in the 2021 Cars and Country Stars festival recap by Jamie Street, where they were named a “breakout supporting act.” This is third-party coverage published on the official festival website, not self-published or promotional. [94]

The band has appeared at multiple Alberta festivals:

2021 – Cars and Country Stars (Irricana, AB)
2022 – Ol’ MacDonalds Resort Music Festival
2023 – Southern Alberta Music Festival (Mossleigh, AB)

Despite claims to the contrary, Tacoma has verifiable **streaming and social media presence**:

The band is signed to Altatude Music, is actively releasing music, and is expanding their coverage footprint. The article is being improved and meets Wikipedia’s threshold for notability under current policy. Deletion would be premature. —Xsbucks (talk) 15:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC) Xsbucks (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Xsbucks: You can't !vote twice dude. Remove that second !keep vote. scope_creep^Talk

@Xsbucks: That ref you put is a blog and is non-rs. There is nothing on social media nor streaming sites regarding this band. scope_creep^Talk 22:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: Just wanted to say — as much as I enjoy the back and forth, I genuinely appreciate your input throughout this process. It’s been a surprisingly resourceful experience, and I’ve learned a lot more about how Wikipedia works behind the scenes.

I’m continuing to improve the article in good faith and gather reliable, third-party sources as I go. Thanks again for helping sharpen the approach — your insight’s been valuable. —Xsbucks (talk)

Thanks mate. scope_creep^Talk 10:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's getting there, would be good to know your thoughts on it and if you had any suggestions on the framework?

Thanks Xsbucks (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep It's getting there, would be good to know your thoughts on it and if you had any suggestions on the framework. Xsbucks (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its not really. The band are non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 07:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Looking at the refs:

Ref 1 [95] This is a blog and non-rs.
Ref 2 [96] This is interview with the band. Its not independent.
Ref 3 [97] This is another interview. Its not independent
Ref 4 [98] This is affiliated content. It is the same interview as above.
Ref 5 [99] This is a routine annoucement of a gig.
Ref 6 [100] This a series of event listings. Non-rs
Ref 7 [101] Single mention as played there. A blog Non-rs.

Not a single one of these references satisfy WP:MUSICRS and WP:GNG. Its is a wee local band. The band is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 07:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, @Scope creep, and for pointing out areas that need better sourcing. I'm currently updating the article to include additional references that meet Wikipedia's standards for independent, reliable, and secondary coverage, as outlined in WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO.

While I understand the concern around regional visibility, I’d like to respectfully note that notability is not limited to global or mainstream acts. Tacoma is an active Canadian country-rock band with:

Consistent airplay and rotation on independent and syndicated Canadian radio stations.
Multiple provincial and national festival performances alongside established artists.
Press and coverage from recognized Canadian media outlets — which I’m currently incorporating as citations.

Wikipedia’s mission is to reflect the full scope of human knowledge, including cultural and regional music scenes. What may appear “local” to some editors may actually be nationally relevant within its genre and country, especially in a space like Canadian country music that has its own infrastructure and audience.

I’d welcome any additional guidance on structure, tone, or article formatting — but I’d ask that deletion not be rushed while sourcing and improvements are still being addressed. Xsbucks (talk) 00:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to review the article. I'm in the process of tightening up the formatting and references, but I believe Tacoma clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria under WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO.

The band has been active for over a decade and has a solid track record of notable performances and regional media coverage.

- Live Performances

Tacoma has performed at the Calgary Stampede (2022–2024), which is one of Canada’s largest music and cultural events. They’ve also played main stages at:

Cars and Country Stars Festival (2021–2025)

Southern Alberta Music Festival

Teepee Creek Stampede (2023), where they shared the stage with Corb Lund, High Valley, and Trevor Panczak

- Original Music

The band has released multiple singles across major platforms, including:

Tangled Up (2013)

Bottle Rocket (2022)

Gettin’ Out Alive (2025)

Music Video for Bottle Rocket on Youtube (2022)

New album releasing Summer of 2025

Their music is streaming on Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube, with airplay support from Canadian country stations.

- Media Coverage

Tacoma has been covered by independent media outlets such as:

Western Wheel for regional live performances

CJVR and Meadow Lake Now through on-air and online interviews

Festival-related articles and reviews through Cars and Country Stars media coverage

These are not trivial mentions — they’re editorial features and reviews from independent outlets with established reputations.

I’ll continue to clean up citation formatting, but I believe this article reflects a band that has earned its place through ongoing, verifiable contributions to the Canadian country music scene. Xsbucks (talk) 00:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment They are non-existant on social media. Here is social blade analytics for Tacoma. [102]. 27 subscribers. Spotify [103]. 3000streams. This is non-notable band. scope_creep^Talk 05:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the input. Just to clarify: Wikipedia notability is not based on social media followers or streaming counts, but on significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources, as outlined in [WP:GNG] and [WP:MUSICBIO].
Tacoma has received editorial coverage from:
- Western Wheel and Cars and Country Stars media for festival appearances
- Interviews and features on CJVR, CKBI, and Meadow Lake Now
- Documented live performances at major events including the Calgary Stampede, Teepee Creek Stampede, and other established Alberta festivals
These sources demonstrate real-world impact and sustained presence in the Canadian country music scene.

At this point, I’ve provided all the sourcing and context available. I trust the community and reviewing editors to evaluate the article fairly based on established guidelines. I’ll leave the decision in their hands and continue improving the article as needed regardless of the outcome. Xsbucks (talk) 13:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Social blade analytics is long recognised way on wikipedia of showing how popular a band is on social media. This is a modern garage band, so social media matters. Live performance and interviews don't towards notability. scope_creep^Talk 18:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the continued discussion, but I want to point out that this nomination was initially framed around the article’s credibility and supposed failure to meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. Yet now we’re shifting the debate toward social media stats, citing follower counts and Social Blade rankings as if they were policy benchmarks.

That’s not how notability works on Wikipedia.

As outlined in [WP:GNG] and [WP:MUSICBIO], notability is based on significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources — not popularity metrics or streaming totals.

It's worth noting that using a third-party analytics tool to suggest deletion contradicts the very spirit of objective, policy-backed review. If the credibility standard was the concern, then we should be evaluating the quality of the independent sources and coverage — not shifting to subjective measurements when that fails to support the outcome.

Tacoma has:

Multiple years performing at the Calgary Stampede

Main-stage festival slots alongside Corb Lund and High Valley

Published interviews and coverage in editorially controlled outlets (CJVR, CKBI, Western Wheel)

A handful of commercial releases and real-world recognition in Canada’s country music scene

These meet the explicit criteria for musical ensemble notability on Wikipedia.

Let’s keep the discussion grounded in the actual standards that guide inclusion, not personal interpretations or moving benchmarks. Xsbucks (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Xsbucks: Yes, I know that. I have done few thousand of these Afd's before and many hundreds of band Afds. You havent presented anything here so far that proves the article is notable. Fire up WP:THREE references that prove the band is notable and I'll take a look at them. So far the article is getting deleted. scope_creep^Talk 19:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope_creep — Thanks for setting a clear challenge under WP:THREE. Below are three independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Tacoma as a band, in accordance with WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO:

1. Western Wheel (2023):

“GALLERY: Thursday night concert series kicks off in Okotoks”

Tacoma was featured in a regional editorial recap of the town’s summer concert series.

➤ https://www.westernwheel.ca/news/gallery-thursday-night-concert-series-kicks-off-in-okotoks-7242201

2. Meadow Lake Now – Harvard Media (2022):

“Coast 2 Coast Closeup: Tacoma”

A written editorial feature published by Harvard Media, introducing Tacoma to a wider Canadian radio audience. This article includes a linked audio interview aired across affiliated stations like CJVR and CKBI.

➤ https://meadowlakenow.com/2022/05/10/coast-2-coast-closeup-tacoma/

Audio: https://media.socastsrm.com/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/755/files/2022/05/tacomamay102022.mp3

3. Cars and Country Stars Review (2021):

“2021 Review – Cars and Country Stars”

Tacoma is listed among the standout performers in a published event recap of the annual Alberta-based festival.

➤ https://carsandcountrystars.ca/previous-car-shows/2021-cars/2021-review

Tacoma has also appeared at major festivals including Calgary Stampede, Teepee Creek Stampede, and Southern Alberta Music Festival, performing alongside artists such as Corb Lund, High Valley, and Trevor Panczak.

These references demonstrate sustained, non-trivial coverage in independent, editorial sources — meeting the notability requirements under WP:MUSICBIO.

Regarding the earlier comment that “the article is getting deleted” — respectfully, AfD decisions are based on community consensus and policy, not individual predictions. I’ve responded with sources that meet the required standards and trust the closer will assess accordingly. Xsbucks (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The WP:THREE given above do not meet WP:42. If that's the best we've got, the band isn't notable. -- asilvering (talk) 04:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now. I hate it when we're, like it or not, squashing the enthusiasm of fans of a group that seems to have some momentum. But in spite of the well-intentioned wall of discussion above, it seems the only source that plausibly provides sustained, independent coverage is the 2021 Cars and Country Stars one. It is several paragraphs and at first glance seems to be independent (have not fully investigated). The Meadow Lake one seems to be a passing mention as caption to a direct interviews which fails the independence test. The Western Wheel is a passing mention too, documenting the band played but not discussing it֫. Bottom line is we don't yet have enough to go on to write an article. Martinp (talk) 12:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the thoughtful input — I fully understand and respect the standards around notability and sourcing, and I appreciate the time everyone has taken to review and discuss.

That said, I just wanted to offer a bit of perspective as someone new to article creation: I’ve poured a lot into learning the ropes over the last few weeks — reading guidelines, hunting for coverage, and doing everything I can to build something that fits within Wikipedia’s framework. It’s been a crash course in policy, formatting, and editorial tone, and while I recognize the sources may still fall short of the bar, I won’t lie — it’s pretty deflating to feel like the wind’s been knocked out of my sails.

This band means a lot to me, and I was hoping to capture a slice of our work in a neutral, well-referenced way. I was certain that I satisfied all of the requirements outlined by Wikipedia policy. This band has been around since 2010 and our first release in 2013, Most of the major articles are archived now or deleted that I am trying to capture. We are continuing to scour every previous interview that we have done in the past to try and find more articles but to keep seeing all this is deflating. Maybe even discouraging from attempting more in the future. I really enjoyed the learning process, but how I feel currently is that this is more opinion based than anything substantial. If nothing else, I’ve learned a lot through this process and I’ll take that into future contributions. I hope the door remains open to revisiting this down the line if more substantial coverage emerges.

Thanks again to everyone who engaged constructively — it means more than you know. Xsbucks (talk) 22:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From your comment you are saying you are part of this band? It is very strongly advised you do not create/edit articles that you are a part of or otherwise have a WP:CONFLICTOFINTEREST. Jumpytoo Talk 00:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete maybe just WP:TOOSOON but I dont see any WP:SIGCOV except the one article which is not enough (we need at least three in depth sources). --hroest 17:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sourcing is insufficient to meet WP:GNG, and there are significant WP:COI concerns which would make it WP:TNT even if it was notable. Jumpytoo Talk 00:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the concern, but I think that might be reading a little too far into it. My intent was never to mislead or present myself as a member, just to help represent the project more clearly from a media and support role. I have known the band for 16 years and decided to enter into my Wikipedia space with them to start. I love how relentless and far reaching some point of views are. Appreciate. But strongly refute WP:COI in any form! Xsbucks (talk) 02:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Xsbucks, this article will not be Kept. If you want to continue to work on it, you should be asking for it to be Draftified which means instead of being Deleted, it would be moved to Draft space where you could work on improving it over time. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2016 Majayjay local elections

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Declined PROD with promise to improve refs. Added references do not indicate anything more than results or routine coverage Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not seeing significant coverage here. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 05:21, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2016 Laguna local elections as per may arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Santa Cruz, Laguna local elections. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anastasiia Veresova

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NGYMNAST. The only "sources" I could find are youtube clips of her. LibStar (talk) 05:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 05:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Second Lady of Guatemala

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Only a single source which does not even assert the existence of the role of "Second Lady of Guatemala" and only supports the fact that Juan Alfonso Fuentes Soria became interim vice president. No mention of his wife Sandra Rosales. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Second ladies of India

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A niche term at best, a made-up term at worse to promote an Indian counterpart to the American second lady. None of the existing citations mentions the term "second lady" and are only used to support claims that certain persons are wives of the Indian vice president. A search on Google does not yield any evidence of established endonymic usage of the term second lady of India (which is not merely a substitute for vice president wife). Searching "Uprashtrapati Bhawan hostess" also does not yield any quality sources. The role of Second Lady of India (as hostess of the Uparashtrapati Bhavan may not even exist even in unofficial capacity. Or if they do, they don't use the term). Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Matsya Bhaban

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Doesn't appear to satisfy WP:NBUILDING nor does it seem like one of the rare notable road intersections (like, for example, Hollywood and Vine). I'm not seeing anything more than passing mentions in the news. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nasiruddin Patwary

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WP:TOOSOON and depth coverage unavailable in reliable sources. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 04:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep - Easy meet WP:GNG. As a politician, he has received significant national independent news coverage. Dv24mail (talk) 06:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the coverage is about the National Nagorik Committee or the National Citizen Party and press briefing speeches, but there is no in-depth coverage about him and about his biography. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 06:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Which point of WP:GNG does the subject meet?Vinegarymass911 (talk) 16:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:POLOUTCOMES. We have spent the past several months deleting articles about minor party leaders, from Canada to India. Bearian (talk) 02:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Carry

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Ian Carry meets WP:COACH through notable roles including head coach at NCAA Division I level, interim coach of a national team, goalkeeping coach of a national team, and current head coach of the U.S. Men's Beach Soccer National Team.[104][105] He has held multiple verified coaching and technical[106]positions at national and[107]collegiate levels.[108] The article is not AI-generated and is improvable. Wq4m820 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Adyeri Omalla

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The person is not notable businessperson; the awards are not notable either. I cannot find proper third party reliable of the subject references. Seems the journalists are not very interested in this topic. Norlk (talk) 15:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

UN link looks "good" but when you click on it and read it gives an interview format coverage, not reliable and not suitable for BLP:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/06/1093392

Julian Omalla, who is widely known as “Mama Cheers” after the popular juice brand “Cheers” that her company Delight Uganda produces, is now planning to expand with the construction of a new factory in the north of the country.

“When I launched my company, Delight Uganda Limited, in 1996, I didn’t know much about running a business. I started it from scratch, and had to overcome many challenges.

I remember walking for many kilometres, on bad roads, and working in my garden from morning to night. One of the low points came when my business partner ran off with all of the money I had raised to buy stock. All I had left was a wheelbarrow, to take fruit to market, and one red dress!

I couldn’t get any banks to finance my business, because I didn’t have any collateral, so raising funds to expand was an uphill task. Like most women in Uganda, I had to rely on savings and invest my profits back into the company.

This link https://unctad.org/news/prize-winning-ugandan-woman-entrepreneur-grows-juice-business-improves-community provides no significant coverage either, and neither this one https://observer.ug/business/julian-omalla-wins-un-award-for-inclusive-business-model/

Omalla thanked Enterprise Uganda and UNCTAD for the award, and pledged to continue working to support uplift rural women from poverty.

She said that she intends to reach at least one million women from the current 500,000, over the next 10 years. She also noted that Delight is in the process of installing a modern processing plant in the region so as to increase its capacity to be able to buy and process all the fruits produced by women farmers. Norlk (talk) 15:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

...So is this a keep or delete, @Norlk ? Sanemero the Robot Prince (not really, it's a Gloryhammer reference) 16:39, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete. the coverage is not reliable. Interviews and BLP don't match on Wikipedia in terms of establishing the notability Norlk (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: There plenty of sources about her including couple of articles in New Vision (1, 2) and Daily Monitor (1, 2, 3)which are respected publications in Uganda. Also not sure why we suddenly think UN News is not reliable. FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: this page was previously nominated for deletion, and passed/kept. What is the new claim with the current nom? FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did not see the reliable sources. The broad discussion is needed. None of the sources you mentioned pass SIGNIFICANT COV requirements. There are many about various companies' activities, memos signed, etc. but not about the businesswoman and her achievements Norlk (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
how is that different from the previous nom? FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not really notable material for a stand alone article. She is an entrepreneur, but that is not enough for a wikipedia article. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as did some editing to fix the tone of the article and added references to support this article. I removed the UN first person reference but the one with secondary coverage, mentioned here supports notability. In addition [109], [110], and the Daily Monitor references noted here all contribute to significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. There are also two other sources [111], [112] found during the previous AfD that haven't been added to the article yet. Nnev66 (talk) 15:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sanjay Passi

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~~Non-notable businessman, hardly to find significant coverage. Fails WP:BIO. I'm not totally convinced it meets the notability criteria for individual.~~ B-Factor (talk) 04:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdrawn: I am withdrawing my nomination as per WP:6MONTHS. B-Factor (talk) 04:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bravelets

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Subject does not appear to be notable upon search. Although they have a considerably large social media following, it does not contribute to notability. No secondary coverage found that would satisfy WP:NORG or WP:GNG. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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It appears a decent amount of the coverage that was there in 2016 - including some of the sources I used in the article itself - have disappeared in the last decade. It's a shame I can't see the Austin.com article anymore. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the jewelry company may be notable, I will try to search for additional sources.--Amlikdi (talk) 07:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per my comment above. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Gil (soccer, born 1983)

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I didn't find anything about his spell at Vasco da Gama. And excluding the T&T newspaper source, none of the others seem reliable. If he was that important to futsal/beach soccer in the US there would certainly be more sources. Svartner (talk) 07:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This article was not made with AI.
Moderated BS world Cup Was nominated for Soccer League hall of fame for time with Beach Socer USA national team. According to the Wikipedia page for the 2012 Mundialito de Clubes, a player named “Gil” scored in two separate matches for Vasco da Gama. futsal, a sport with even less media coverage, has documented his national participation as well, as shown in this 2010 report from FutsalPlanet. This supports notability under WP:NATHLETE, which considers athletes who have competed at the highest level of their sport, including international representation. (sourcing for wiki page is needed, research can be done - and found). Wq4m820 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that none of these sources are independent or provide in-depth coverage of him. Svartner (talk) 23:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NATHLETE, SIGCOV is not required in the same manner as WP:GNG. That's Policy. Notability is established by participation at the highest level of competition, including international representation. Oscar Gil’s involvement with the U.S. national beach soccer team and participation in major international tournaments clearly meets this criterion. While stronger independent sourcing would be ideal (and can be worked on accordingly), the current evidence satisfies WP:NATHLETE’s standards for retaining the article. Wq4m820 (talk) 00:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The actual language in WP:ATHLETE, which is in bold letters, is The article should provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline. JTtheOG (talk) 07:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wq4m820, please actually read WP:NSPORTS. All subjects must meet GNG, and all biographies of sportspeople are required to cite an IRS SIGCOV source. JoelleJay (talk) 15:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Upon rereading WP:NATHLETE in full, I recognize that significant coverage from at least one independent, reliable source is still required. I maintain that Gil’s international participation aligns with the competitive notability standard, but absent a SIGCOV source at this time. If deletion proceeds, I’d support userfication so the article can be improved for a future resubmission. Wq4m820 (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic encephalopathy

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Very few WP:MEDRS, much of it is uncited, and the NINDS article (https://web.archive.org/web/20050720074428/http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/encephalopathy/encephalopathy.htm) that makes up a lot of the cited material in the article is actually not specific to toxic encephalopathy. I was going to remove all of the material that's cited to NINDS because it may not be accurate to toxic encephalopathy, but at that point it would be leaving the article as mostly uncited or cited to unreliable sources. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve per WP:PRESERVE. There are a large number of scholarly sources available including a few that take a broad look at the subject rather than the more specific case studies etc. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 03:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep no reason to think this isn't a notable thing, just specialized. Ipatrol (talk) 23:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Round Rock, Texas#Education. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Round Rock Christian Academy

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I nominated this article for PROD a week ago, but didn't realize that it was already nominated for PROD and contested in the past therefore being ineligible for another PROD nomination (whew, i'll be more careful next time). I don't think that the school is notable enough to warrant a standalone article. As far as I can see, there does not seem to be a suitable article to redirect to, so AfD is the only course of action available. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 14:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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redirect and merge into Round_Rock,_Texas#Education whatever can be salvaged on history (probably not more than half a paragraph) that is not ROTM "school teaches stuff". --hroest 20:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per above. Really nothing more than a listing is needed. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 19:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - there's no sourcing. A redirect is a common outcome lately in such cases. Bearian (talk) 02:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Assyrian–Kurdish conflict

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This article is a wp:nor mess. Some of its content is lifted from articles that I wrote, but I have seen no evidence that the article topic exists. It makes about as much sense as an article about the "Asian - African conflict" throughout North America from 1700 to present. For most of history there have been more conflicts between different Assyrians and Kurds and it still doesn't make sense to consider either of them a cohesive group that is involved in an armed conflict. (t · c) buidhe 16:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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My idea was to move this page to Assyrian–Kurdish relations as we already have many pages describing bilateral relations, but I got pushback and was reverted. I will also note that an older version of the page almost seems to be about a different topic entirely - and one presented coherently - so my (tenuous) vote is to Keep and revert to version as of 3 May 2025. Koopinator (talk) 08:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The bilateral relations articles are about relations between two state or state like entities, not between different ethnic groups that don't have an institution representing them. I am still skeptical about that framing as well as the "land dispute" one, which I don't think it's supported by the cited sources. The characterization that there is a land dispute between the Kurdish and Assyrian people or between Assyrians and the KRG (as opposed to individual Assyrians and Kurds) is disputed. But the chosen article title makes it seem like a fact. (t · c) buidhe 15:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be be better to have an article about land usurpation in Iraq, which leaves more room for covering non ethnic causes because it lacks the biased framing that presumes a conclusion. (t · c) buidhe 15:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: As someone who created this article (which has been significantly altered as I can see), I will be a little biased of course, hence my position. But we have to be honest with ourselves that there is some preexisting Assyrian-Kurdish conflict (which is still ongoing) and as well as some landgrabs by the KRG (as per the sources in the page). Also, Kurdistan is a semi-autonomous federal region that controls land (so it is a "country" in a way), whereas Assyrians don't have much power there. Bringing up "Asian-African conflict" is misrepresenting and heavily trivializing the history in the region, and it's comparing apples and oranges – Africans and Asians are NOT native to North America. Whereas, Assyrians and some Kurds too are native to Upper Mesopotamia, and the conflict there (which the media doesn't really focus on much) is not something to be ignored or scoffed at. Oh, forgot to mention that, thanks to the recent editor of the article (Ilamxan), the article has been excellently and thoroughly sourced. It will be a huge waste if it's deleted. Yucalyptus (talk) 09:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdistan is not a single political entity. If the intent was to write an article about Assyrians in the KRG governed areas I think "Assyrians in Iraq" would be a better location for the content. There is no basis for shoehorning in content about the Ottoman Empire, Syria, etc. We do not have sources covering the entire topic so it doesn't meet the criteria for having an article. (t · c) buidhe 13:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When I created the article, I did not include the Ottomans (if you check the earlier edits). Another user included such content (in good faith though). You are right. The Ottomans pillaging and massacring Assyrians in the early 20th century have nothing to do with the modern day Kurdish-Assyrian land disputes/conflict. I would hope that somebody would remove content about Ottoman Empire, as it is already covered in other articles regarding modern Assyrian history. Yucalyptus (talk) 11:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: While the article’s structure and framing may need refinement, deletion is not the appropriate course of action. There is a clear body of reliably sourced content documenting tensions, disputes, and episodes of violence between Assyrian and Kurdish groups across different historical periods and regions. This is not a synthesized or invented topic-the subject meets notability under WP:GNG due to sustained coverage in reliable sources. Comparisons to fabricated constructs like an “Asian-African conflict in North America” are both inapplicable and dismissive of the real and tragic history of marginalized groups in the Middle East. Deleting this article would erase a significant and underrepresented regional dynamic, undermining Wikipedia’s mission to document the full scope of notable human history. ElijahUHC (talk) 00:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep I have never seen this much information compiled in one article on the subject matter. This type of information is only available in bits and pieces which I have seen in the last 10 years. For the sake of history this must be kept. Gevergiz (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Could be reworked but the only reason to delete or merge this article would be to remove and/or hide potentially negative aspects of Kurdish nationalism - There's been well documented attacks committed by Kurdish polities (whether or not in service of an empire or by their own volition) against Assyrians, and vice versa.

⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 14:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think it's worth reposting my talk page message:

This is a massive WP:COATRACK article discussing a bunch of barely related historical incidents and trying to fit it all in a narrative of an ethnic conflict that has supposedly been ongoing since the 19th century. Just some lovely excerpts:
When Kurdish rival tribes fought each other, the bulk of the violence was directed at the Assyrian subjects of the opposing tribe.[6] Assyrian tribes would often fight each other on behalf of their Kurdish protector tribes.[7]
This is fighting between Assyrians

During the Russo-Turkish War of 1877–1878, the Ottomans armed the Kurds to fight Russia. At the end of the war, the Kurds refused to return the weapons, putting the Assyrians at further risk.[8]
An incident in a war that tangentially relates to Assyrians

On 10 May 1915, the Assyrian tribes met and declared war against the Kurds and the Ottoman Empire.[20]
This one is particularly gratuitous - Kurds were fighting Assyrian rebels in their capacity as Ottoman rank-and-file - this is best understood as an episode of World War I rather than some ethnic conflict that began in the 19th century.
My initial instinct was to bring this to AfD, but I recognise there has been an effort to gather historical facts. We already have many pages describing bilateral relations - in that light I suppose that this article could be salvaged as long as it's not WP:SYNTHed into a "conflict". Thus, I will move this to "Assyrian–Kurdish relations".
— Myself, on Talk:Assyrian–Kurdish conflict. I was reverted and then this AfD happened.

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I fixed the issue pertaining to WP: COATRACK (on my part). I removed content that is not related to the Assyrian-Kurdish conflict, such as Ottoman attacks in the 1910s and other unrelated incidents and battles in the 20th century that have nothing to do with the modern conflict in subject. Yucalyptus (talk) 07:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Le Chi Thuc

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Unsourced article. It seems like I'm reading a self promotion article. I did a quick WP:BEFORE but can't find anything about this person.

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Comment I added a few sources, though I'm definitely leaning delete. I wouldn't really consider either of them SIGCOV, just a few mentions to prove he is what it says he is, but they're both by the same author and I can't find much else on him. Ré union! 18:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reunion Did you said that you can't find more that articles by "Rajiv Chandrasekaran" about "Lê Chí Thức" ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 15:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn’t search that long or extensively, just wanted to add some sources to the article to make it look better. The only two I dug up were both by Chandrasekaran, a reporter for the Washington Post, so yes. Not sure what your point is here. Ré union! 17:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You did perfectly answered to my question and you did perfectly understood it. Anatole-berthe (talk) 11:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete with caveat I did my usual source search and I couldn't find anything good ...in English. There were several non-English sources that I could not read. If someone who can read in Vietnamese would take a look at Google Scholar, they might find something suitable. Are we sure "Le Chi Thuc" is the correct anglicized spelling of the subject's name? Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Darkfrog24 The name in Vietnamese of the subject is "Lê Chí Thức". Vietnamese language use latin characters.

The name of the person in Vietnamese is mentioned in the article but this is not the article's title.

Unhappily , I don't know Vietnamese.

Maybe , automatic translation can help us to read sources in Vietnamese. Anatole-berthe (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: Really Fails WP:BIO. This person is really of unknown notability and there are no official source on this person. Furthermore, the author of this post has also been indefinitely banned for copyright infringement so it is certain that this post should be deleted. Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 11:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of state media by country

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Since we have Category:State media - i think this list is not needed. Its difficult to maintain or verify accuracy. Category should be the source of truth. Cinaroot (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect or merge to List of public broadcasters by country. While there is a hat note explaining both lists are not the same, the inclusion criteria distinction is fuzzy and not applied at all. For several countries, the same broadcasters are included in both lists, which would not happen, in theory, if the hat note was accurate. They are supposed to be mutually exclusive inclusion criteria, and they are not. MarioGom (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
redirect to where ? Cinaroot (talk) 18:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

state media list is different from public broadcasters list. it cannot be redirected or merged there Cinaroot (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See my rationale. This article claims they are different. But they list the same media outlets. It's effectively a POV fork. MarioGom (talk) 09:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That being said, if there is no consensus for redirect/merge, I'd be fine with deletion. MarioGom (talk) 09:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yah, a media shouldn't be in both. people keep adding to this. i have no idea if its true. thats why - we cannot maintain such a list. List of public broadcasters by country is written more like a article. so im fine keeping that. Cinaroot (talk) 00:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MarioGom can you change your vote to either keep or delete. like i noted below - Radio Rwanda, Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation, Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa etc.. are included in this list. However - in the article they are all identified as public broadcaster. This is why - im saying we cannot maintain this list. its a mix of state media and public broadcaster. Cinaroot (talk) 02:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. My first option is redirect/merge, and second option delete. MarioGom (talk) 18:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That happened after a mass merge by @Cinaroot (I had been keeping the lists non-redundant) but just went back in and cleaned up List of public broadcasters by country so there should not be any duplication Superb Owl (talk) 20:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i just moved whats in Public broadcasting to List of public broadcasters by country Cinaroot (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just restored and improved the original list that complements the article we are discussing here so there should be zero overlap between the two. I also added an editnotice on List of public broadcasters by country which should help to cut down and maintenance and duplication on that article and is something I would suggest for this article as well to explain the importance of the outlets having editorial independence and entries having citations that support that they have said independence. Superb Owl (talk) 02:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The scope of the article is also dubious. It lists a number of authoritarian countries that have no independent media but has provided only a few names for "state media". NavjotSR (talk) 07:13, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure I understand your point exactly but am curious to better understand your thoughts Superb Owl (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - One of the advantages of lists (as spelled out on WP:BEFORECAT) is that they allow us to organize by topics like by Country (as this list is). Because state media is very much country-driven, it seems to be the best format barring some way to render categories by country. The list article seems to be more popular (gets ~10x the number of pageviews) and has been maintained much better than the categories though I have been cleaning those up as well. Superb Owl (talk) 20:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I still support deletion.

The concept of “state media” is too broad and often disputed. Without a clearly defined and consistently applied inclusion criterion—whether it’s government funding, editorial control, legal status, or degree of independence—the list becomes subjective and unreliable. It invites confusion, duplication, and personal opinion.

Cinaroot (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Rwanda is in state media list - but in the article it says its a public broadcaster.

Same for Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation - I PICKED THESE TWO AT RANDOM

Please just delete it. I'm not sure - if this is being watched by enough editors. People will continue to add wrong media to this list. Cinaroot (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cinaroot: Please, see WP:BLUDGEON. MarioGom (talk) 22:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:BEFORECAT. - Amigao (talk) 23:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is not accurate. please see my above and below comments. Cinaroot (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Radio Rwanda, Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation, Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa etc.. are included in this list. However - in the article they are all identified as public broadcaster. Cinaroot (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Radio Rwanda and Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation are for sure state media and had citations supporting that assertion which you deleted (I deleted the Greenland example for lack of citations on the matter). Please see WP:WPNOTRS for explanation of why we do not use Wikipedia articles as reliable sources to determine things like whether or not a broadcaster should be called state media or not. Even if they were incorrectly added, please see WP:NOTPERFECT which talks about how fixing issues is preferable to deletion in many cases. Superb Owl (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i removed citation's because another editor was involved in Wikipedia:REFSPAM - involving 100's of articles. This manipulated the search results and AI output. I still do not like you adding lots of citation to same source in List of public broadcasters by country or depending on a single source for classification.

I do not have a major objection to keeping the list itself. but state media classification is complicated and disputed. like i said before without a clearly defined and consistently applied inclusion criterion—whether it’s government funding, editorial control, legal status, or degree of independence—the list becomes subjective and unreliable. Cinaroot (talk) 06:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, useful as a list, no reason to delete. Why does this website suddenly have so many efforts to delete perfectly fine lists, when Wikipedia is famous for these? Hyperbolick (talk) 05:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - nom seems to be a straightforward WP:NOTDUP error. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Babusar bus accident

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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Unable to find sustained significant coverage. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 03:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Florida Atlantic Owls Hockey Club

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and half of the links are not properly functioning. The only working, possibly independent source is WFLX, and it's not clear that it is sufficiently independent or deep coverage in any case. C 679 03:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not commenting on the massive mess this user is making of biographies, but the WFLX and WPTV references should be the same thing (WPTV partially operates WFLX under agreement). The correct WPTV link is [113] and would be preferred. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep: The sources from WFLX and WPTV references are duplicates, but still count as one independent reliable source for GNG. The six sources from the university do not contribute, and the hockeywriters source is only a passing mention. Flibirigit (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (with work) - Article can be improved and rewritten. WPTV/WFLX source is good. Yahoo Sports source adds to notability but comes from those above.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wq4m820 (talk • contribs)

Dschang bus-truck crash

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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Unable to find sustained coverage beyond passing mentions. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 03:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2010 Peru bus crash

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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Unable to find sustained significant coverage. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 03:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anudi Gunasekara

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Procedural nomination: 2A00:23C7:ECAA:4A01:1C00:4085:3D1C:C04C (talk · contribs · WHOIS) placed an AfD deletion template on the page. I have no opinion on this. ... discospinster _talk 02:41, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Anudi Gunasekara is a nationally and internationally recognized figure, having been crowned Miss World Sri Lanka in 2024 and currently serving as the country’s representative at the 72nd Miss World pageant. She is the first Sri Lankan contestant to reach the finals of both the Miss World Talent segment and the Head-to-Head Challenge, and the only contestant from Asia to do so in this edition of the competition. Her Beauty with a Purpose project, Saheli, addresses period poverty in Sri Lanka and has reached over 10,000 women and girls through the distribution of menstrual hygiene products and educational initiatives. The project has also included policy advocacy at the national level. In recognition of her efforts, she has been named a BleedGood Ambassador by the Selyn Foundation and appointed an honorary member of Rotary International District 3220. The Miss World 2025 finals are scheduled for the 31st, and Gunasekara remains an active and visible participant in the ongoing competition. Many contestants from other countries with similar or lesser levels of recognition and impact have individual articles on Wikipedia. Given her national title, international pageant achievements, and documented advocacy work, Gunasekara meets the notability criteria for inclusion on the platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsaib (talk • contribs) 08:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: per above. She is a notable person who represented Miss World 2025 & also a 2024 Miss World Sri Lanka. IDB.S (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As can be seen in the talk page, the general consensus is that the page should be kept and that the deletion request was maliciously motivated.

NisansaDdS (talk) 05:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fast and Curious

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Fails WP:NALBUM. The album has no significant coverage, award wins/nominations, music chart history. The same goes for the songs on the album. The page's references rely on music store links (Bandcamp, iTunes, BigCartel). Other "sources" include expired links and YouTube links. There are no further sources that can be gathered to support any album sale claims, recording dates, etc. Sackkid (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Sy_Smith#2011–2015:_Fast_and_Curious ApexParagon (talk) 03:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note I think it is worth nominating the artist page for deletion too. While she has an Emmy nomination, it doesn't strengthen the article and frankly she doesn't much media coverage outside of blogs. There is a Billboard charting song but again, the page is a weak keep at best. So I am open to nominating that page for deletion as well. Sackkid (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sy Smith#2011–2015: Fast and Curious per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just a comment in case you don't have the script installed so you can see the font is in pink, but Sy Smith is nominated for an AFD discussion. So, it might not be the best target article. Or, if you believe it should be, you might consider participating in that AFD, too to ensure it is not deleted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Air Kosova

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Fails WP:NCORP, but it's a bit harder to tell as not a single reference link works. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 02:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This does appear to exist, but it's simply WP:TOOSOON. Also note apparently there was a Bosnian Air Kosova that operated briefly in 2000. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Plew Trivisvavet

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Fails WP:BIO. He's a low-profile businessman; this newspaper article says he "rarely shows up at social functions or even in newspaper columns." Passing mentions and company announcements are about all I can find. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hrach Kaprielian

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Non-notable businessman. Lacking any WP:RS. Cabrils (talk) 01:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Austin N. Nosike

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Non-notable, promotional page of Nigerian academic. Page almost certainly created by undeclared paid editor. To the extent there are reliable sources, that coverage is WP:ROTM. Fails WP:NPROF, WP:ANYBIO. Cabrils (talk) 01:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete very far away from passing WP:NPROF based on a search of his academic record and while a Vice-Chancellor can pass WP:NPROF I dont think a Deputy Vice-Chancellor will clear the bar. --hroest 17:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandre Berardo

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Fails WP:BIO. A co-driver in electric car regularity rally events doesn't get much notice. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom. Fails to show WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Fade258 (talk) 07:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chicken Ranch Casino

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Non-notable resort. Promotional page. Lacks WP:RS. Fails WP:N. Cabrils (talk) 00:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: Borderline A7 No claim to or evidence found of Notability Star Mississippi 05:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom and Mississippi. I didn't see any significant coverage in reliable and independent references which are mentioned in the article. Fade258 (talk) 14:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - promotional article, I was going to say WP:TNT the article, but theres no notability. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Chicken Ranch Rancheria of Me-Wuk Indians of California, the tribe who owns the casino, though both articles do need serious help. Nathannah • 📮 17:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there is indeed a chance this is or will become a notable building, but I can't make a keep argument, and the article is in such bad shape that even if it is somehow notable, we need to apply WP:TNT. Just noting it here in case this gets recreated at some point. SportingFlyer T·C 23:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swam the Waters

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The album doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ALBUM. The references used are essentially track listings. I was unable to find anything more substantial. JSFarman (talk) 00:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yet to meet notability standards like WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV and WP:NALBUM. Since, article is just created on 22 May 2025 and as per alternatives to deletion, I would like to support for Draftify. Fade258 (talk) 07:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails the requirements of WP:NALBUM, preferred option is Draftify. Dan arndt (talk) 09:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Draftify is the preferred option Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 10:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)~~ [reply]
- Change my vote to Delete because the votes below indicate that the artist of the album does not have their own page. And even the author who created this page was once found to have used AI to write an article. Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 23:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the artists for this album doesn't even have an article. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Per WP:A9 an album article is unlikely to survive when the associated musician does not have an article. For everyone voting to draftify, the person behind this article should encouraged to work on an article for the band instead. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is one of three LLM-slop articles (written by the same editor). All of them are related to the band, and all three have hallucinatory references. (Both have been moved to draft: 8 Degrees and A Series of Moments). JSFarman (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The artist of the album does not have their own page, making this very unlikely to be notable. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I already commented above on the draftify process, but until that gets organized this album article should be deleted for procedural reasons (possible conflict of interest, suspicions of AI, band article should come first if they are notable). ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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