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[edit]- TV3 Winchester (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable cable-only ABC affiliate; only one source; could merge into WHSV-TV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Licence to Grill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Show that fails WP:GNG. No sources found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Zee Tamil Kudumbam Viruthugal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An award show put on by a television channel to honor its own shows. Nothing notable about it and the sources available are all unreliable or not independent. CNMall41 (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Janette DuCharme (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Largely unreferenced article which is just an overlong plot synopsis without any further analysis. WP:FANCRUFT --woodensuperman 07:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Forever Knight - Not enough sources to pass the WP:GNG, but is already covered on the main article for the TV series, so redirecting there is a reasonable WP:ATD. Rorshacma (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per Rorshacma. Not enough coverage to pass the WP:GNG. There is an adequate WP:ATD here. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nick Knight (Forever Knight) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Largely unreferenced article which is just an overlong plot synopsis without any further analysis. WP:FANCRUFT --woodensuperman 07:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Though currently poorly sourced, I believe this character to be notable. The following (and possibly their reviews) could be used as sources:
- Melton, J. Gordon (September 2010). The Vampire Book: The Encyclopedia of the Undead. Visible Ink Press. pp. 255–258. ISBN 978-1-57859-350-7.
- Hoppenstand, Gary; Browne, Ray Broadus (1996). The Gothic World of Anne Rice. Popular Press. p. 231. ISBN 978-0-87972-708-6.
- Grace, Angela (May 2011). Dark Angels Revealed. Fair Winds Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-1-59233-457-5.
- Abbott, Stacey; Brown, Simon (Summer–Fall 2019). ""Let's Go to Work": The Legacy of Angel a Slayage Special Issue". Slayage. 17 (2): 1–18.
- Garrett, Susan M. (1997). Forever Knight: Intimations of mortality. Boulevard Books. ISBN 9781572973138.
- Sizemore, Susan (1997). Forever Knight: A stirring of dust. Boulevard Books. ISBN 9781572972384.
- Hathaway-Nayne, Anne (1998). These Our Revels. Berkley Boulevard Books. ISBN 978-0-425-16491-4.
- "Forever Knight". Epi-Log Magazine. No. 36. Nov 1993. pp. 4–11.
- "Forever Knight". Epi-Log Magazine. No. 37. Dec 1993. pp. 29–35, 62.
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kieran Sells (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of a person not properly sourced as passing any Wikipedia inclusion criterion. The attempted notability claim here is that he was a production assistant on television talk shows, which is not "inherently" notable without WP:GNG-worthy sourcing for it, but the sole footnote is a directory entry rather than anything that would build GNG.
This was also very likely a self-promotional autobiography, as it was created by a single-purpose account named "PhillyGuy23", while the subject apparently attended Temple University in Philadelphia and would have been exactly 23 years old at the time this got created.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable without much, much better sourcing for it than this. Bearcat (talk) 06:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with nom. A WP:BEFORE targeted search using Jimmy Kimmel and John Carpenter keywords doesn't turn up anything. Amazing that this survived 16 years, with nothing new being added. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 06:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete it violates WP:GNG and WP:BIO, there are no RS covering the subject. --hroest 17:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Tipton Hotel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not much more than in-universe trivia, other than the outside being taken from a real hotel. Certainly nothing that warrants a standalone article. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect/Light Merge to The Suite Life of Zack & Cody - There does not appear to be the kind of significant coverage in reliable sources that would allow this to pass the WP:GNG on its own right, and justify a split from the main article on the series. The little bit of real-world info regarding the filming location of the exterior of the building can potentially be merged into the "Production" section of the series' article. Rorshacma (talk) 18:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Telegantic Megavision (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Liane Cartman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable character, fails GNG. Almost all of the sources are primary, and the ones that aren't are of questionable reliability and/or do not demonstrate significant coverage. A WP:BEFORE search did not yield results. Madeleine (talk) 21:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Mr. Mackey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable character, fails GNG. Almost all of the sources are primary, and the ones that aren't are of questionable reliability and/or do not demonstrate significant coverage. A WP:BEFORE search did not yield results. Madeleine (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Wendy Testaburger (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable character, fails GNG. Almost all of the sources are primary, and the ones that aren't are of questionable reliability and/or do not demonstrate significant coverage. A WP:BEFORE search did not yield results. Madeleine (talk) 21:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Just done a quick Google so not gone in any depth so no !vote yet, but: -
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/South_Park_and_Philosophy/Nx_QTjonFP4C?
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Deconstructing_South_Park/YF6TMQf385gC?
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Taking_South_Park_Seriously/H7OEFij0QkgC?
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Everyday_Discourses_of_Menstruation/E11BDAAAQBAJ?
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Boy_Culture/iEPPEAAAQBAJ?
- https://whatculture.com/tv/south-park-every-main-character-ranked-worst-to-best?page=7
- https://movieweb.com/south-park-best-stan-and-wendy-episodes-ranked/
- https://www.cbr.com/south-park-wendy-as-scary-as-cartman/
- https://screenrant.com/south-park-show-best-characters-ranked/
- https://www.cracked.com/article_41101_cartmans-most-crushing-defeat-on-south-park-was-a-win-for-breast-cancer-awareness.html
- Suggest some degree of notability that needs to be examined. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 09:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Jason Burkart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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non notable actor, a minor role in a notable series, and otherwise unnamed and non-notable roles in other series, ranging from a background actor to completely unnamed background actor. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- The Last of Us, Once Upon a Time and Tell Me a Story: The Life of J.L. Tramel. Maybe be enough treasure to prove the person. Matthewhayana (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The notability of an actor is not established by listing roles, it's established by showing evidence that he has received WP:GNG-worthy coverage in reliable sources about him and his performances — i.e. newspaper articles about him, magazine articles about him, books about him, and on and so forth — but absolutely no GNG-building sources have been shown here whatsoever. Bearcat (talk) 02:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability and poor quality sources. Barry Wom (talk) 09:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No in depth coverage as required for WP:GNG and regarding WP:NACTOR It seems all his roles were minor. --hroest
- Jason Dasey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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That's biograme is merely sourced, it's known that he works as journalist that's all there no reasons for meeting notability guidelines The Wolak (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Black Agenda Report (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I think this talk page post convinced me Talk:Black_Agenda_Report#Far-left_and_radical. ―Howard • 🌽33 05:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- The discussion on the talk page doesn't seem to be about notability? How much do the sources here cover it? They're all reliable and if they are significant it should be fine. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – The initiator of the talk page discussion begins in part by saying: "I haven't found any evidence that BAR meets GNG," but there are reliable sources cited throughout the article. Neither the initiator of that discussion nor the nominator of this deletion discussion have challenged those sources, which makes it difficult for other editors to vote. Obviously any editor can check for themselves, but the initial responsibility falls on the nominator. Yue🌙 17:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Four Elements (series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Obviously incomplete article that was disruptively moved out of mainspacedraftspace (after am AfC decline) by the creator. Draftification is an option, but was consumed so we cannot draftify again. I am not opposed to any draftification of the article. As for the notability, Google searches for the Thai title brought up sources, but it is unclear since most of the sources are rather brief so an analysis would be helpful. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 14:34, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: per nom (or draftify if someone wants to work on it) Laura240406 (talk) 17:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No WP:V. No WP:RS. All it is and has been, since first created as a sandbox draft in 2024, is a fandom page. Pyxis Solitary (yak). ⚢ 08:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gwen (singer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BANDMEMBER, no indication of notability outside of being in her group. orangesclub 🍊 00:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: per my argument to Maloi ROY is WAR Talk! 22:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Bini (group): Per my arguments at the Maloi AFD discussion. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 18:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think "Gwen (singer)" is an appropriate redirect. There may have been several more notable singers named Gwen that are for more notable. Either this is kept (either as a standalone article or as a redirect assuming info on this article is not there at the main Bini article) or deleted, no redirects. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- 2016 in Indian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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PROD denied, converting to AFD. Rationale from PROD: fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Given what the other "Year in <nation> televisions" articles look like (using the bottom navigation template), this seems to be appropriate to keep but would just likely need to populated with sourcing from Indian sources. I did a few spot checks and it looks like those entries can be sourced. I see no reason to delete it, since AFD is not cleanup. Masem (t) 17:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - I look at this more of being a summary of events, not necessary a list. There are sources that discuss it in groups so expanding and cleanup would not require synth. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I don't see a point in this AfD because this article is long enough to mention a number of notable television related activities that happened in that year. >>> Extorc.talk 19:25, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 14:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gary King (radio presenter) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted at AfD, the article was recreated last November. Notability was tagged and concerns discussed on the talk page. The tag was removed with a recommendation it go to AfD if concerns remain. I have reviewed all the sources on the page. Although there was an attempt to add volume of sources to address notability, none of these do, in fact, demonstrate notability as they are primarily just programme listings and announcements, which lack independence, and we have a selection of self published sources in there including IMDB and Flickr. I'll add my source analysis in a collapsed form to the nom. We require significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. None of these sources meet that.
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- OK I can see from the source analysis that a lot of them give a passing mention. But surely because there is repeated, at least partially independent, mentioning of him presenting on national radio, that proves he is notable? I think the repeated mentions by RadioToday and Dublin Live as well as listings are, taken in totality, evidence of his notability? I know it's a nail-biting decision on this one as to whether notability is established but because King isn't the head of Blue Revolution and other presenters with similar careers and Wikipedia articles (like Toby Tarrant) whose Wikipedia articles show arguably slightly less notability than Gary King's have remained up for years, surely the rules should be interpreted a loosely than you have interpreted them? That's might of point view anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 11:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep This article has numerous independent references and I don't see how anyone can argue that someone who has presented on national, semi-national and local radio stations, and also worked on national television programmes and channels, for decades is not notable. Rillington (talk) 13:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Yes so Rillington did say that Rillington would advocate for the page's retention, should it go to AfD a second time. I think Rillington would have to this very discussion anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but have a read of WP:APPNOTE which is part of the canvassing guideline above. If you ping past commentators to a discussion you should ping them all, and if you leave them a note, it should be a neutral notification. Not to worry. I understand you haven't done this all before, and the matter is repaired now as I have sent a ping to everyone else. But be aware of that for the future. Cheers. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes so Rillington did say that Rillington would advocate for the page's retention, should it go to AfD a second time. I think Rillington would have to this very discussion anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- As well as being independent, references must also be secondary and reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject. That is what the General Notability Guidelines say. As per my source review (collapsed above) we don't have any such sources. On Wikipedia radio and TV presenters, as well as journalists and other media figures, are not considered notable just for doing their job. They become notable when someone starts to write about them (and not about programming). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- This editor was WP:CANVASSED to this discussion [9] owing to statements previously made on the talk page and in their !vote to the last AfD. I propose we repair the canvassing by pinging in all other editors involved. Bearcat, Phil Bridger, Funky Snack, Ldm1954, Jo-Jo Eumerus. Let me know if I missed anyone. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is not established by sources that glancingly mention him — it's established by sources that are about him. Radio hosts, national or otherwise, are not automatically notable just for existing — they become notable if and when they're the subject of coverage and analysis in third-party sources independent of themselves, not just because you can find their name in program schedule listings and staff directories self-published by their own employers. Bearcat (talk) 18:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Jw93d59 (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, doesn’t seem to meet WP:SIGCOV despite the large amount of sources per Sirfurboy’s analysis. Not sure where it could be redirected. ApexParagon (talk) 02:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Searching digitised newspapers, I can only find program listings, apart from one photo and one-line caption when he joined Radio One in 1990 (the caption includes his age, but nothing else). There is certainly not enough secondary coverage to meet WP:GNG, nor even enough for WP:BASIC. I don't see significant roles in notable programs (as distinct from radio stations), so I can't see that he meets WP:ENTERTAINER either. Nor do I see a redirect or merge target, as he has been associated with many stations and programs. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Kargin Haghordum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A 20-year old Armenian TV show that fails WP:GNG, and currently has no references. The only mention I can find is an Armenian interview from 2010 with the two actors, otherwise no other coverage, significant or otherwise. Celjski Grad (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - I've added 3 news refs (plus an interview. I used http://google.am to find them. (one of them is already in our Armenian language article, hy:Կարգին հաղորդում. I used Google Translate to read them. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTKe3SwUHU&ab_channel=KarginTV
- It is one of the most popular shows in the Armenian history. 5 million views for this episode (Keep in mind, Armenia's population is only 3 million). Widely considered by Armenians to be one of the best comedy shows of all time. Wrobeli (talk) 03:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep per WP:HEY and WP:AGF. I can't read a word of Armenian, but it looks popular and notable. Bearian (talk) 01:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Mere Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable script-writer, fails WP:BIO
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- List of state media by country (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Since we have Category:State media - i think this list is not needed. Its difficult to maintain or verify accuracy. Category should be the source of truth. Cinaroot (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect or merge to List of public broadcasters by country. While there is a hat note explaining both lists are not the same, the inclusion criteria distinction is fuzzy and not applied at all. For several countries, the same broadcasters are included in both lists, which would not happen, in theory, if the hat note was accurate. They are supposed to be mutually exclusive inclusion criteria, and they are not. MarioGom (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- redirect to where ? Cinaroot (talk) 18:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- state media list is different from public broadcasters list. it cannot be redirected or merged there Cinaroot (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- See my rationale. This article claims they are different. But they list the same media outlets. It's effectively a POV fork. MarioGom (talk) 09:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- That being said, if there is no consensus for redirect/merge, I'd be fine with deletion. MarioGom (talk) 09:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- yah, a media shouldn't be in both. people keep adding to this. i have no idea if its true. thats why - we cannot maintain such a list. List of public broadcasters by country is written more like a article. so im fine keeping that. Cinaroot (talk) 00:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- @MarioGom can you change your vote to either keep or delete. like i noted below - Radio Rwanda, Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation, Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa etc.. are included in this list. However - in the article they are all identified as public broadcaster. This is why - im saying we cannot maintain this list. its a mix of state media and public broadcaster. Cinaroot (talk) 02:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- No. My first option is redirect/merge, and second option delete. MarioGom (talk) 18:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @MarioGom can you change your vote to either keep or delete. like i noted below - Radio Rwanda, Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation, Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa etc.. are included in this list. However - in the article they are all identified as public broadcaster. This is why - im saying we cannot maintain this list. its a mix of state media and public broadcaster. Cinaroot (talk) 02:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- yah, a media shouldn't be in both. people keep adding to this. i have no idea if its true. thats why - we cannot maintain such a list. List of public broadcasters by country is written more like a article. so im fine keeping that. Cinaroot (talk) 00:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- That being said, if there is no consensus for redirect/merge, I'd be fine with deletion. MarioGom (talk) 09:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- See my rationale. This article claims they are different. But they list the same media outlets. It's effectively a POV fork. MarioGom (talk) 09:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- That happened after a mass merge by @Cinaroot (I had been keeping the lists non-redundant) but just went back in and cleaned up List of public broadcasters by country so there should not be any duplication Superb Owl (talk) 20:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- i just moved whats in Public broadcasting to List of public broadcasters by country Cinaroot (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I just restored and improved the original list that complements the article we are discussing here so there should be zero overlap between the two. I also added an editnotice on List of public broadcasters by country which should help to cut down and maintenance and duplication on that article and is something I would suggest for this article as well to explain the importance of the outlets having editorial independence and entries having citations that support that they have said independence. Superb Owl (talk) 02:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- i just moved whats in Public broadcasting to List of public broadcasters by country Cinaroot (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The scope of the article is also dubious. It lists a number of authoritarian countries that have no independent media but has provided only a few names for "state media". NavjotSR (talk) 07:13, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am not sure I understand your point exactly but am curious to better understand your thoughts Superb Owl (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - One of the advantages of lists (as spelled out on WP:BEFORECAT) is that they allow us to organize by topics like by Country (as this list is). Because state media is very much country-driven, it seems to be the best format barring some way to render categories by country. The list article seems to be more popular (gets ~10x the number of pageviews) and has been maintained much better than the categories though I have been cleaning those up as well. Superb Owl (talk) 20:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I still support deletion.
- The concept of “state media” is too broad and often disputed. Without a clearly defined and consistently applied inclusion criterion—whether it’s government funding, editorial control, legal status, or degree of independence—the list becomes subjective and unreliable. It invites confusion, duplication, and personal opinion.
- Cinaroot (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Radio Rwanda is in state media list - but in the article it says its a public broadcaster.
- Same for Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation - I PICKED THESE TWO AT RANDOM
- Please just delete it. I'm not sure - if this is being watched by enough editors. People will continue to add wrong media to this list. Cinaroot (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Cinaroot: Please, see WP:BLUDGEON. MarioGom (talk) 22:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:BEFORECAT. - Amigao (talk) 23:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Article is not accurate. please see my above and below comments. Cinaroot (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Radio Rwanda, Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation, Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa etc.. are included in this list. However - in the article they are all identified as public broadcaster. Cinaroot (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Radio Rwanda and Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation are for sure state media and had citations supporting that assertion which you deleted (I deleted the Greenland example for lack of citations on the matter). Please see WP:WPNOTRS for explanation of why we do not use Wikipedia articles as reliable sources to determine things like whether or not a broadcaster should be called state media or not. Even if they were incorrectly added, please see WP:NOTPERFECT which talks about how fixing issues is preferable to deletion in many cases. Superb Owl (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- i removed citation's because another editor was involved in Wikipedia:REFSPAM - involving 100's of articles. This manipulated the search results and AI output. I still do not like you adding lots of citation to same source in List of public broadcasters by country or depending on a single source for classification.
- I do not have a major objection to keeping the list itself. but state media classification is complicated and disputed. like i said before without a clearly defined and consistently applied inclusion criterion—whether it’s government funding, editorial control, legal status, or degree of independence—the list becomes subjective and unreliable. Cinaroot (talk) 06:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Radio Rwanda and Ethiopian Broadcasting Corporation are for sure state media and had citations supporting that assertion which you deleted (I deleted the Greenland example for lack of citations on the matter). Please see WP:WPNOTRS for explanation of why we do not use Wikipedia articles as reliable sources to determine things like whether or not a broadcaster should be called state media or not. Even if they were incorrectly added, please see WP:NOTPERFECT which talks about how fixing issues is preferable to deletion in many cases. Superb Owl (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, useful as a list, no reason to delete. Why does this website suddenly have so many efforts to delete perfectly fine lists, when Wikipedia is famous for these? Hyperbolick (talk) 05:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - nom seems to be a straightforward WP:NOTDUP error. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- TruVista Communications (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ProtobowlAddict talk! 02:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - There are sources showing it exists, but nothing that comes close to WP:ORGCRIT. I found it strange that a company claiming to be more than 100 years old has no online presence. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Chester Telephone Company was started in 1897 as privately-owned independent telephone company to serve the small rural town of Chester, South Carolina. In the 1980s, it was one of the investors in a successful regional fiber network, PalmettoNet,[10] that sold broadband capacity and dark fiber to large long distance telecoms and big corporate users. It also began acquiring small cable TV systems and now says it serves about 60,000 customers.[11] Over the years, Chester Telephone, then TruVista got industry coverage for deploying new (at the time) technologies.[12] TruVista was purchased by a big private equity firm, iCON Infrastructure, in 2019 and operates autonomously. [13] I personally think we should have an article about this company since it's part of the history of rural telecommunications. I know it would meet WP:GNG. However, companies have to meet Wikipedia's much more restrictive WP:NCORP guideline which effectively disqualifies most otherwise reliable press coverage (including major events such as "the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business") from notability consideration. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 01:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you have the sources that meet WP:ORGCRIT (regardless of what name it was at the time), then it would meet NCORP. Makes sense that it had numerous name changes since there really isn't anything out there under the current name. I would be happy to change my vote if you can provide the links. I do not have access to ProQuest unfortunately though. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Kris Millsap (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. A behind-the-scenes film production worker doesn't get a lot of media notice. He's no exception. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. As I've already told the user before, both in their talk page and in another AfD, they must remember that this is a BLP, so the standards for sourcing are much more strict than the article observes, also. Coeusin (talk) 00:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Beach Head (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG entirely. Mostly plot article of a non-notable cartoon character. (The previous nomination was closed as procedural keep due to the nom's disruption, but the merits were not discussed at all). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:16, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. As in actually merge rather than just redirect so there's not less about the character than there is than Colonel Courage, as there's clearly some very minor notability, if not enough to justify a standalone
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Ultimate_Guide_to_G_I_Joe_1982_1994/_BNjDwAAQBAJ? and https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fPYYEQAAQBAJ don't have much in-depth of the guy but would probably make acceptable citations of the basic facts in a list article.
- https://thehardtimes.net/lists/every-g-i-joe-ranked-by-how-well-they-could-teach-a-sex-ed-class/ and https://thehardtimes.net/lists/50-g-i-joe-characters-ranked-by-how-effectively-they-could-have-stopped-9-11/ are a bit useless, even on the zany listicle scale. LOL, he has BO, it was mentioned on his filecard and never again.
- https://lylesmoviefiles.com/2013/03/25/g-i-joe-the-movie-review-an-80s-classic-revisited/ again provides a source for citation of his role in the movie, but not in depth to justify a standalone
- While some of the capsules at https://screenrant.com/gi-joe-3-characters-villains-discussion/ could probably help stub a Reception section, Beach Head's isn't one of them.
- As an overall point, this one can function nicely as a test case.
- Merge to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. As in actually merge rather than just redirect so there's not less about the character than there is than Colonel Courage, as there's clearly some very minor notability, if not enough to justify a standalone
- I'm not actually sure any of the G. I. Joe characters flood-nominated recently warrant deletion, most of them just need to be merged to the appropriate character list articles, as the vast majority have *some* notability, even if it's far from what's needed for GNG. As merging after an AfD involves simply redirecting because closing admins are busy people, I would suggest the sub-par Joe articles would be better sorted through proactive use of editing and merge/redirect templates, which would be a less time-consuming method for everyone involved, and probably wouldn't take any more time than decent BEFORE and researching AfD votes. Otherwise there's the risk we end up in one of those moronic loops where the list directs people to the main article, which directs people back to the list, which is a lot more irritating to 99% of readers of Wikipedia than an article being on the crufty side. Personally don't see the need to have a ticking clock on that being done after 19 years or whatever of the article being there. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I was wondering on if you are for or against the merge. --Rtkat3 (talk) 21:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per WP:ATD and WP:CONSENSUS. I don't see how this meets WP:SIGCOV, but it's healthy for this community to strive for middle ground so we can actually fix things. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or merge with List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 21:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Afghanistan's Next Top Model (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The source is a "news of the weird" type story that appeared in English language outlets in 2007. The actual name of the show does not appear in the articles. A briefly mentioned unnamed show does not add up to notability. Gamaliel (talk) 02:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- VOOsport World (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, sourced to primary sources and database entries. ~ A412 talk! 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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While this isn't a G4, the substance of the issues raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halocene do not appear to have been addressed by this new draft and merger. Since the decision is two years old, a new consensus may be helpful. Bringing it here for discussion. Star Mississippi 01:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Saw this earlier but was going to let the dust settle a day prior to bringing to AfD. Page created despite draft being declined multiple times. Fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG.--CNMall41 (talk) 04:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect back to The Masked Singer (Australian TV series)#Controversy (effectively endorsing the closure of the first AfD). Now that I've the energy to sit and do WP:BEFORE search, I've found mostly press releases or routine announcements, some of which are cited in the article itself. Many of the in-depth coverage in independent secondary sources are about the plagiarism accusations. I had done the merge because a patroller (?) found Halocene (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and requested a pageswap with the base page name. I thought it better to keep the extensive page history at plain old Halocene, especially since (band) only has my merge, the patroller's addition of a short description and hatnote, and the recreator's writing. (For transparency, nominator notified me about this AfD on my user talk.) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 06:35, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree with aggregating the history together in the event Halocene becomes notable and have no issue with any of your actions here @Rotideypoc41352. I also notified the creator of the new article so that you were both aware since the script "saw" the creator as the the one who created the article deleted in 2023. I'm guessing the history was somewhere as this is a remarkable first edit even assuming Rledder had been active as an IP before registering for easy creation. Star Mississippi 12:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! I just didn't want the potential contradiction between my initial actions (removing the redirect) and my comment here [to restore it] to confuse the closer or anyone else looking into this AfD, so I thought I would clarify that the merge was more about attribution and page history than about notability. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree with aggregating the history together in the event Halocene becomes notable and have no issue with any of your actions here @Rotideypoc41352. I also notified the creator of the new article so that you were both aware since the script "saw" the creator as the the one who created the article deleted in 2023. I'm guessing the history was somewhere as this is a remarkable first edit even assuming Rledder had been active as an IP before registering for easy creation. Star Mississippi 12:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect - Redirect with history in tact to The Masked Singer (Australian TV series)#Controversy. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:38, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep meets WP:GNG. I created this in good-faith but for some reason a promotional version was restored - I've removed unsourced and promotional content. Halocene has received coverage beyond The Masked Singer controversy, coverage dates back to 2011 when Phoenix New Times covered it ([14]). Two state-level publications have covered it including Phoenix New Times and Arizona Republic and meets WP:SIGCOV thresold. Phoenix New Times covered it in-depth in 2011, 2017, and 2020. Rock Sound covered it in 2023. None of these sources were provided by editors in the previous draft or deletion discussion. There are more references in music magazines as well and should be kept. Rledder (talk) 11:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for cleaning up the article and for leaving a detailed comment here. I see what I consider to be an acceptable variability in judgment on which sources show the band meets GNG (or WP:NBAND). The first two [external] links are to the same source (explaining for closer's convenience)—and it is an interview, which is not independent of the subject and doesn't help determine if they meet GNG. I have no firm opinion on the 2017 PNT article; the 2020 one does meet the WP:SIRS criteria. I read the 2023 Rock Sound piece as a routine announcement (of a new release) and thus not significant coverage of the band (and maybe not even for the single itself, tangentially). Returning to the topic at hand, I do not know if we have had consensus that two sources shows that this subject meets GNG. As nominator said, this discussion will hopefully clarify that and the evaluation for notability purposes of the sources we can find. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Clarifying for closer that WP:SIRS in my reply above simply refers to the bullet points under WP:GNG: secondary sources independent of the subject, reliable, and contain significant coverage of the subject. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for cleaning up the article and for leaving a detailed comment here. I see what I consider to be an acceptable variability in judgment on which sources show the band meets GNG (or WP:NBAND). The first two [external] links are to the same source (explaining for closer's convenience)—and it is an interview, which is not independent of the subject and doesn't help determine if they meet GNG. I have no firm opinion on the 2017 PNT article; the 2020 one does meet the WP:SIRS criteria. I read the 2023 Rock Sound piece as a routine announcement (of a new release) and thus not significant coverage of the band (and maybe not even for the single itself, tangentially). Returning to the topic at hand, I do not know if we have had consensus that two sources shows that this subject meets GNG. As nominator said, this discussion will hopefully clarify that and the evaluation for notability purposes of the sources we can find. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, the band passes WP:GNG/WP:NBAND. As it currently stands, with two articles that meet WP:SIRS criteria, it passes that test. While I see merit in the redirect option, a read into the band's article and the sources linked suggests that while the controversy surrounding The Masked Singer did play a major factor, their notability is not solely derived from that incident.
- (also a minor declaration that I was the one who happened to patrol the article as Rotideypoc mentioned) Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 16:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Can you share the sources which you feel show it passes GNG/NBAND? Also, how does SIRS apply as that is a company guideline? --CNMall41 (talk) 16:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- SIRS does apply to the source materials, which shows a likely level of notability associated with the subject. In this case, having at least one quoted article in 2019 coming from The Arizona Republic - the most widely circulated newspaper in Arizona - infers a presumable notability that goes statewide.
- In addition to The Masked Singer controversy article(s), one of which was the aforementioned quoted article, the 2020 Phoenix New Times article @Rledder mentioned earlier in the discussion states that the band has taken what was back in 2020 considered a lesser-adopted approach to Twitch as a platform, and are recognized by the streaming platform for it. That in itself merits independent notability from The Masked Singer, and a degree of notability that is non-trivial. Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 17:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am sorry but SIRS has NO application for this page. It is a subject specific notability guideline dealing with companies, not musicians and/or bands. You have also failed to cite the requested sources that show notability under GNG or NBAND. Do you have those available for the discussion? --CNMall41 (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I will concede on the SIRS part as this may have been my misunderstanding on how it's applied in sources. As to the requested sources: The Arizona Republic article (reference 9), as well as the PNT article in question (reference 4). Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 18:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you for conceding. The AP article is paywalled but I am assuming it was prior to 2023? I should have specified that I am looking for sources showing notability since the last deletion discussion where it was found they were not notable. We are not here to relitigate the previous AfD. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I will concede on the SIRS part as this may have been my misunderstanding on how it's applied in sources. As to the requested sources: The Arizona Republic article (reference 9), as well as the PNT article in question (reference 4). Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 18:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am sorry but SIRS has NO application for this page. It is a subject specific notability guideline dealing with companies, not musicians and/or bands. You have also failed to cite the requested sources that show notability under GNG or NBAND. Do you have those available for the discussion? --CNMall41 (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Can you share the sources which you feel show it passes GNG/NBAND? Also, how does SIRS apply as that is a company guideline? --CNMall41 (talk) 16:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak keep per DemocracyDeprivationDisorder. Close enough to meet WP:GNG. 38.74.35.75 (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Katy Perry: Night of a Lifetime (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Poorly sourced and lacks notability. Should be merged into the 143 album article. Sricsi (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom and lack of sources online. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- What are you supporting? A merger? Geschichte (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good question. MarioSoulTruthFan, are you arguing for a Merge? Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- I will correct it MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 07:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good question. MarioSoulTruthFan, are you arguing for a Merge? Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete : No notability Kirtap92 (talk) 05:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Katy_Perry#Filmography. Not really notable on its own since sourcing is poor. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Lindsay Merrithew (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:NBUSINESSPERSON. His film and TV credits are not particularly significant and his company is unnotable. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- weak keep I think this is the same actor whose performance is discussed here and here. Together with the rest of the articles, the Globe and Mail article I think an overall picture of just passing the GNG emerges. --hroest 20:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Elise Allen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not convinced this person is notable. Yes she wrote a "New York Times bestseller", but even for that the primary reason it was a bestseller was because she coauthored it with Hilary Duff, and it seems likely many people bought it because they were fans of Duff – essentially ghostwriting in the open. She created some children's TV shows – even if those shows are notable, I don't think that necessarily makes her notable by extension. Note this article was already deleted per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elise_Allen in Feb 2020 but then recreated roughly 10 months later – and I'm not sure if anything had really changed between its deletion and its recreation. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 00:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I suppose the Emmy nomination could be notable, but all we have for sourcing is a list with a name. I can't find sourcing about this person, so not enough for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment Commenting as this is reaching the end of a week of AfD - I have so far found coverage of her and another book she wrote, The Traveling Marathoner (Fodor, 2006). That could certainly be added to the article. I'll see what else I can find. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I have added reviews of her books - not just those she co-authored, but there are multiple reviews for Populazzi (which has a WP article) and Twinchantment (which doesn't yet, but should). It looks like her book The Traveling Marathoner also had multiple reviews - I have added one, one in the Chicago Tribune is paywalled [15], and the Los Angeles Times says [16] that "For summer reading, Runner’s World recommended “The Traveling Marathoner: A Complete Guide to Top U.S. Races and Sightseeing on the Run.” So she meets WP:AUTHOR, even without considering her significant contributions (as developer, producer, co-creator, writer) to Princess Power, Rainbow High, Gabby Duran and the Unsittables, Rainbow Rangers, and multiple Barbie movies. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Which aspect of WP:AUTHOR do you think is fulfilled? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:30, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Criterion 3: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Plenty of coverage on the things she wrote, but there isn't significant coverage of the subject in reliable independent sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Per RebeccaGreen. Meets NAUTHOR3 and 4(c). Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with RebeccaGreen and others that the article passes notability via WP:NAUTHOR #3 with multiple reviews in independent reliable secondary sources for the subject's books. Nnev66 (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- John Hiestand (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Prolific actor, but no major roles as far as I can see, so he fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. He was in some major films, such as The Pride of the Yankees and The Day the Earth Stood Still, but uncredited, as he was in most of his filmography. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment He is mentioned in a lot of Wikipedia articles]. Maybe there are some refs there that mention him? He seems to have been the announcer for a lot of radio shows in addition to his film/TV roles. I think he needs more investigation before deleting. See this, this, and this. Perhaps someone can search Newspapers.com? -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Speedy Keep - I just inserted the link to the : "AFI|Catalog". catalog.afi.com. Retrieved 16 May 2025. in the film section. This verifies 50 titles in Filmography that he actually made. That was easy to find, and John Hiestand appears to have been a prolific actor. Perhaps what throws people off is that in these older films, for all the actors, and are easy to overlook. In the case of Hiestand, his roles seemed to be as a radio announcer or commentator. Announcers/commentators were propelling the story lines, so they are vital in those old films. Someone else needs to find television or radio sourcing. Also, please click on Find Sources links at the bottom of the above deletion notice. Those will take you to more sourcing. There is no reason to delete this article. It just needs someone to search a little and add the sourcing. — Maile (talk) 04:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rebuttal. Find sources shows he got passing mentions only, almost always for being a cast member; the most significant snippet seems to be in the book Animated Personalities, which says he pretended to be Walt Disney when Disney couldn't be there. "credits did not necessarily appear on screen" = uncredited, which means an actor didn't have a significant role. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I have spent the better part of the day researching on this individual. He is notable and his career spanned decades through screen, television and radio. And, yes, he did perform with the Kay Kyser band. I have done some of the sourcing, but it's now up to others. Anyone who wants to know more, is welcome to pick up the research and post it here. — Maile (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I am currently looking for sources. I have added one profile from the Los Angeles Daily News, and a quote from the Los Angeles Times. The latter is from the section where readers' queries about film, TV and radio personalities are answered - it's short, but does indicate a level of notability at the time. I also note that some newspaper reviews of films that are listed in this article, in which he is said to be uncredited, list him among the cast. The website oldtimeradiodownloads (apparently blacklisted) has an image of a printed profile titled 'Say Hello To ...' - unfortunately, it doesn't seem to give details about the publication it appeared in. I'll come back to !vote, but it does look like he was well known as a narrator and in the role of radio announcer (on actual radio, and in films), and is probably notable. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. I don't see grounds for this to be a Speedy Keep. He certainly has a great many credits but that doesn't automatically translate to notable. Can we get a source review here?
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- Allin Kempthorne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I've AFD'd this, but actually I think it should be redirected to Wriggler (video game). There doesn't appear to be any independent, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the subject of this article. Sourcing is all tabloid news (The Mirror, The Sun, Metro) or passing mentions. Simply appearing on BGT (and not being recognised...) does not indicate notability. Simply being a bit-part actor in numerous films does not indicate notability. Additionally I have WP:PROMO/WP:COI concerns here.
They wrote the ZX Spectrum game Wriggler together with their twin when they were at school, and this game is clearly notable, but nothing else they have done appears to be notable.
Also nominating The Vampires of Bloody Island for deletion (no need to redirect this), which is the film Allin Kempthorne created. The only coverage that could be found for this is blatantly promotional ("we were forced to bring forward the release of this film because of an email campaign that no-one but us is the source for existing") and from sources of dubious reliability. Simply being nominated for a Twitter Shorty Award does not indicate notability.
Similarly also Learning Hebrew for the same reasons.FOARP (talk) 07:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Sounds reasonable, concurring per nom. IgelRM (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @IgelRM@MimirIsSmart - Also redirect for the two films? Or delete? FOARP (talk) 08:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per nom with WP:NPOV disputed and as for the the next one, since it exists, redirect to a suitable one since Allin's does meet neutrality and COI as suggested or keep if there are more sources. I will suggest we keep one worthy, I will work on it and find sourcs to redirect others to newly edited one per WP:ATD as one can argue WP:TOOSOON.
- HilssaMansen19 (talk) 09:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable, concurring per nom. IgelRM (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per nom. MimirIsSmart (talk) 01:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete There is no mention of Wriggler anywhere in the article, or any sources for it, so it's not a legitimate redirect term. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm confused, are you criticizing that Kempthorne involvement in Wriggler isn't sourced well? IgelRM (talk) 17:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think what @Ritchie333 is trying to say is that, since Wriggler isn't even mentioned in the current article on Kempthorne, it's a WP:ASTONISH issue for anyone looking for info on Kempthorne. I'm inclined to agree. Anyone who searches for "Allin Kempthorne" will still be able to find Wriggler (video game) in the search results, they just won't be automatically directed there. -- asilvering (talk) 05:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm confused, are you criticizing that Kempthorne involvement in Wriggler isn't sourced well? IgelRM (talk) 17:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Because there are three articles under review, I think this needs more eyes.
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- Sports Kyoushitsu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Other language wiki page has no sources that support notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Longstanding (1961-2017) series broadcasted nationally on NHK. WP:NTVNATL. DCsansei (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- WJNK-LD (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested WP:PROD; questionable sourcing; some original research; tone concerns. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to WPGD-TV History before Edge Spectrum came in and switched networks from 3ABN to TBN is unremarkable, and whatever their actual plans outside rebroadcasting WPGD-TV on ATSC 3.0 is a big unknown just because we have no idea what Edge Spectrum plans for their stations when they actually build them out or acquire one. Right now it's a pointless in-market translator for a network overcovered by WPGD and streaming...and it's not even broadcasting any of the networks in HD, even though the standard would allow that and they have nothing else outside these channels on their spectrum (this is why I AfD'ed their article, because I'm baffled about everything Edge Spectrum does). Nathannah • 📮 21:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to WPGD-TV. I think it can be salvaged a bit. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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