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Kyle Hill

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I came across this article whilst looking for the YouTube educator. (who apparently doesn't have an article at this time) Asides from a few external links, there appears to be only one source for this biographical article about a basketball player. I suggest draftification unless users performing WP:BEFORE searches can find sufficient sources to expand and rescue this article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn. When I hastily made my nomination, I assumed the article would be held to the same (or similarly high) notability standards as biographical articles for YouTubers like J. J. McCullough, Mr. Beat and Sambucha, and other sportspeople like Armand Biniakounou and Patrick Chiwala. (I don't really care as much about these two, just thought I'd mention them as examples) Nonetheless, I take away the following from this:

Articles on sportspeople are held to some standards, but apparently those standards may not be as high as the standards for articles about influencers. (I might have run with a fallacy here)
If I had wanted to bring other editors' attention to an article, I could've just tagged it as needing "immediate attention", but that can only be done through certain WikiProject banners. In my experience, tagging an article for "immediate attention" on its talk page ironically seems less effective (than an AfD nomination) at drawing a reasonable amount of attention to an article within a reasonable amount of time.

Nonetheless, as an inclusionist, I'd be satisfied to see the article kept. Feel free to close this discussion as speedy keep at any time. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What an incredibly passive-aggressive withdrawal. Rikster2 (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Furthermore, there's a delete !vote, so it's not able to be withdrawn anyways. SportingFlyer T·C 19:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as a solitary reliable source in a biography of a living person, over the course of 17.8 years, does not an article make, nor begin to meet muster for Wikipedia:Notability. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Basketball, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, France, Greece, Italy, Serbia, Spain, Georgia (U.S. state), and Illinois. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is an incredibly lazy nomination that relies on others to do the work on behalf of the nominator. As Hill was a prominent enough basketball player in Europe, I was able to farm [1] [2] from other languages, [3] is a good article and [4] [5] are other sources. Not all of these are SIGCOV but coverage is easily found, and we don't draftify source-deficient articles if the subject is notable. SportingFlyer T·C 01:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Another source. [6] Passes WP:NBASKETBALL. Anyone who is selected in an NBA draft is going to have coverage. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:45, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't look like the nominator saw themselves as the person addressed by the text of WP:BEFORE, but that is how we conventionally mean it - you are supposed to do some due diligence before nominating, as opposed to nominating and expecting others to do it. We're all volunteers, and it's fair to expect some investment of time up front given that you expect others to do some investment of time to then double-check that and back you up. Likewise, a lack of {{inline citations}} (and references being merely links) is a cleanup issue, not a reason for deletion. More fundamentally, if the main thing you wanted is an article about the youtuber, just write one at a disambiguated title, like Kyle Hill (YouTuber). --Joy (talk) 08:36, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources by WikiOriginal-9. Rikster2 (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stade François Monti

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Non notable local stadium with a capacity of 1,000. Mccapra (talk) 21:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and France. Mccapra (talk) 21:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to ÉF Bastia – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 22:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I should have thought of that. Mccapra (talk) 01:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:03, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 09:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to ÉF Bastia as a viable alternative to deletion. Netherzone (talk) 13:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect is fine. Bearian (talk) 01:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vincent Dutrait

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Unsourced BLP. No reliable sources online other than his profiles on various board game websites. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Games, and France. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge, for lack of a better target, to List of role-playing game artists. The Board Game Designer's Guide to Careers in the Industry has two-thirds of a page on Dutrait in the part I could preview, and some more in sections I can't. I've also added coverage and an award based on web articles which to my understanding are by independent game-related web magazines rather than simply "board game websites". Neither of those coverages is very long, though, so notability is just on the edge in my view. Additional, there are short comments within further reviews. Much of what is unsourced can be verified by Dutrait's non-independent portait here, the independent portrait here, and primary sources. Daranios (talk) 14:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is also brief general commentary on Dutrait in this unlikely secondary source. Daranios (talk) 15:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This will be able to be kept in case of providing more credit sources.110 and 135 (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for various credits of Dutrait can be found in various primary and secondary sources appearing in this, this, and to a lesser degree this search. Daranios (talk) 15:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on the sources found by Daranios. BOZ (talk) 16:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Pagès

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No sources giving significant coverage are on the article and a search has not revealed any WP:SIGCOV in any reliable source. Boynamedsue (talk) 18:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Christianity, and France. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 19:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. We are not an Amazon company. We are not a soap box. Bearian (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As someone in the relevant academic field he's both not someone I haven't heard of inasmuch as I'm vaguely aware of figures in far-right politics and Islamophobia in France who are involved in Catholic-Muslim relations but at the same time he's also not someone I can find much in the way of verifiable sources dealing with him. He's mentioned in brief in a French polemical book written to criticize Pope Francis from a secular liberal perspective and he's mentioned in some literature on Christian eschatology for his diatribes against Hans Urs von Balthasar but there's not really anything to establish notability. So with that in mind, Delete per the foregoing. M.A.Spinn (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Gervais II wreck

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This needs more WP:RS sources to support its notability. Czarking0 (talk) 23:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Transportation, and France. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. "Needs more sources" is not a policy-based argument for deletion. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Other people making non policy based arguments is also not a policy based argument for keeping. Let me be more clear about what I meant. This does not meet WP:GNG Czarking0 (talk) 15:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It actually is a reason for speedy keeping when it is the nomination: one of the grounds for WP:SK1 is if the nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion. With this comment, now you have done so. Curbon7 (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Also seems to be referred to as "Saint Gervais B" ([7]). Curbon7 (talk) 06:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Widely referenced and not just any old find but a significant one. Srnec (talk) 02:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. 2600:8806:2A05:1100:1097:AFF5:4FE9:E15F (talk) 15:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sufficient coverage establishing notability per WP:GNG. ZachH007 (talk) 18:27, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

LIZY (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources are either based on company announcements (fail WP:ORGIND) or funding and launch announcements (fail WP:ORGTRIV). ~ A412 ^talk! 22:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I found this article that is not included in the references right now. Also this one. gidonb (talk) 22:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Geneviève Jeanningros

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Fails WP:GNG. She briefly went viral during Pope Francis's funeral, but other than that... she's just a nun. Luxic (talk) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, Religion, Christianity, Europe, and France. Luxic (talk) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Previous independent in depth coverage here[8], here[9] and here[10]. Pope Francis mentioned her in print[11][12] and she's been mentioned in books about Francis[13][14]. Additional coverage here[15]. Jahaza (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think it's worth noting that all those sources only mention her in relation to Pope Francis (or she's mentioned by Francis himself). I still fail to see what would make her notable in her own right, regardless of her connection/friendship with the late pope. Luxic (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. Jahaza (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Enough coverage in RS. Not only in books but in The New York Times, The Telegraph, The Washington Post, Agence France-Presse. I added a Reuters and a People.com reference. The article has room for improvement, but notability is proven. It's not just 1E in the pope's funeral. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/France

France

Kyle Hill

Stade François Monti

Vincent Dutrait

Guy Pagès

Saint Gervais II wreck

LIZY (company)

Geneviève Jeanningros

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