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Add Indonesian language fallback aliases for Namespaces in Madurese
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What happens?:

If the Indonesian is the fallback language, as it should be, all the namespace terms in Indonesian should be recognized by the system, such as Templat, Kategori, Berkas, etc.

Madurese, as well as other local languages in Indonesia, often translate and import templates, categories, and articles from Indonesian language, and it's often frustrating to find some templates and modules not working because of the Indonesian terms above were not recognized. The new contributors are often clueless to this problem, and grew frustrated at the lack of solution.

I happen to gave some training to their community and found out about this problem. Upon searching, I found that Indonesian should have already been a fallback language. I'm not sure why the problem exist/persist.

What should have happened instead?:

The Madurese community clearly asked for Indonesian language as the fallback language, and so it should be. If there's something else that need to be done, please do inform. Thanks.

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Bennylin updated the task description. (Show Details)

i don't think fallback should/would work the way you expect https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Language#Fallback_languages it only fallback if there is no existing messages available

This is where MediaWiki will fall back on a different language if it cannot find what it needs

You may request to add Indonesian namespace names as alias for Madurese

Aklapper renamed this task from Indonesian language is not working as fallback language for Madurese to Add Indonesian language fallback aliases for Namespaces in Madurese.Dec 13 2024, 10:27 AM
Aklapper changed the subtype of this task from "Bug Report" to "Feature Request".

You may request to add Indonesian namespace names as alias for Madurese

I will suggest that to the community

Bennylin reopened this task as Open.

I'll keep this open for now, and wait until they gathered consensus and post the result here. Thanks.

Hi, it's been two weeks, please confirm this task, thanks.

@Bennylin: I do not know what "confirming a task" means? Anyone is free to pick this up (or not), and if you would like to make this configuration change yourself, please check https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_site_requests#Change_the_translation_of_a_namespace for some potential code orientation - thanks!

Change #1120888 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] madwiki: add namespace aliases

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120888

Change #1120888 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] madwiki: add namespace aliases

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120888

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-02-19T08:33:53Z] <dcausse@deploy2002> Started scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1120701|satwiktionary: add sitename, timezone, projectnamespace (T386631)]], [[gerrit:1120888|madwiki: add namespace aliases (T382087)]], [[gerrit:1120699|uzwikiquote: add logos (T386569)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-02-19T08:37:01Z] <dcausse@deploy2002> dcausse, anzx: Backport for [[gerrit:1120701|satwiktionary: add sitename, timezone, projectnamespace (T386631)]], [[gerrit:1120888|madwiki: add namespace aliases (T382087)]], [[gerrit:1120699|uzwikiquote: add logos (T386569)]] synced to the testservers (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-02-19T08:46:56Z] <dcausse@deploy2002> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1120701|satwiktionary: add sitename, timezone, projectnamespace (T386631)]], [[gerrit:1120888|madwiki: add namespace aliases (T382087)]], [[gerrit:1120699|uzwikiquote: add logos (T386569)]] (duration: 13m 00s)