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This was a redirect, blown up to article size--but the supplied links are basically all company sources and manuals, and I cannot find any secondary sources either. A redirect to Tales of Mobile is the proper solution. Drmies (talk) 19:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see now that the editor has done the same with Tales of Breaker, with the same problems. Drmies (talk) 19:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As said earlier, I do not see the need for deletion when the alternative, Tales of Mobile, is empty and mostly bland, offering no informations whatsoever. I followed closely the formats of other Tales games, adding references, links and everything. A lot of game pages (especially for old i-mode games like this) could realistically fit into a main page, Xenosaga Pied Piper could be deleted and just be a passing mention on the main Xenosaga article, BCFFVII could be deleted and just have its content in the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" article. Both of those coexist with one another and with no problems with the dedicated page adding on to what is missing on the other ones. As for links, I do not see the problem when pages like Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage which has no external link except a simple blog, no references, no nothing and yet this page is still allowed to exist despite being less well put together than Tales of Commons which properly source everything and uses different websites rather than just sticking to the same. Leptitgay (talk) 19:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You'll want to explain how it meets our notability standards, not how its like or unalike other random articles. Sergecross73 msg me 19:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  I'm gonna have to compare it for this reply. Unlike other random articles, it and the other 4 mobile articles were covered by well-known respect and Japanese tech and gaming media like ITmedia, dengeki or Gaming Tech alongside official sources from the parent company. That's already 3 reliable sources. I am sorry but I will once again compare it to Tales Summoner Lineage which has nothing supporting it having its own page.
  
  https://dengekionline.com/data/news/2005/9/27/b147d1f6198573a00f8c38c4f6b18ca8.html
  
  https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/spv/0509/27/news100.html
  
  https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20051122/toc.htm
  
  I have read the notability rules and this should be enough. I am of course open to other possibilities to improve the articles Leptitgay (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Fine sources, but basic announcements without critical reception is still generally below the criteria. The redirect still appears most suitable, none of the other games in this Tales of series seem to have articles either. Of course, you may WP:AFD Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage. IgelRM (talk) 15:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You need to discuss how this article meets our standards, and it seems to me, from your words, that the more likely way to achieve success is to improve the main article. Stop talking about other articles. Drmies (talk) 19:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added some references from the corresponding Japanese article. Bandai Namco has changed its web domain. I couldn't find Tales of Commons on the https://www.bandainamcoent.com/ Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Japan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:19, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect Right now, highly lacking in WP:SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. It was more suitable as a redirect given its lower sigcov. MimirIsSmart (talk) 02:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 04:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 09:45, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect - sourcing is very short and weak, not enough to support a stand-alone article (as evidenced by the fact that probably over half of the article remains unsourced with little improvements in the last week or two.) The whole reason the the Tales of Mobile article exists is to serve as a landing point for all of these minor titles. None of these spinouts from it should have been created, as they all share the same sourcing issues and half-baked implementation. Note to closer: IgelRM's redirect !vote was placed higher up in the discussion, but was added after one of the relist, so there is a consensus developing post-relists. Sergecross73 msg me 13:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]