Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heikant, Vught

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The result was keep‎. Would the nominator please become familiar with WP:GEOLAND if you are considering an AFD for a location. Significant coverage is not required. I don't think admin action is called for here but the nominator is urged to become acquainted with subject-specific notability standards and realize that not every subject is evaluated by the same criteria. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:06, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Heikant, Vught

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Did a WP:BEFORE search and couldn't come across anything relevant to the subject. Didn't find any significant coverage whatsoever in the article. Editz2341231 (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Netherlands. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per ample sources. Well recognized location. Had 440 residents. Meets BASIC. Location of the Jewish cemetery of Den Bosch. gidonb (talk) 13:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article has one source and it doesnt meet the general notability guideline. It's unlikely that it has ample sources. Since 'Heikant, Vught' is a “former hamlet,” it doesn’t qualify for the automatic presumption of notability granted to legally recognized populated places under WP:GEOLAND. Editz2341231 (talk) 20:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A quick search proves that this large and official hamlet was included in every relevant geographical dictionary. Per NEXIST: Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. It's big and bold so editors will not miss it. They still do. Per NPLACE: Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. The population of Heikant, Vught wasn't even particularly low. Especially not for a hamlet. This nomination has no base in our P&G. gidonb (talk) 01:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find the population online. Can you provide some sources that are significant and independent to the subject? Editz2341231 (talk) 22:08, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1851: 440 residents. Mentions the Jewish cemetery at least since 1370 1872: 130 residents 1898 1900: 395 residents 1943 etc. etc. etc. Obviously no book misses a "hamlet" (really a former village) this size. gidonb (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can't confirm the reliability of these books as they aren't in English. But I'll take a look at each of the links that you've sent. Editz2341231 (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editz, you chose to nominate a notable location in a country where another language is spoken. No one else. The only good answer here would have have been immediate withdrawal and apologies for wasting the community's resources with a ridiculous nomination and constant arguing. It's not your first either. All your nominations have been of notable subjects. Maybe an admin can look into this? gidonb (talk) 19:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's no WP:SIGCOV in any of the refs you put here. Editz2341231 (talk) 20:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a requirement. You continue to argue. gidonb (talk) 21:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. I'm not arguing in any way, shape, or form here. Significant coverage is required in articles. Editz2341231 (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NPLACE (WP:GEOLAND): Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. No SIGCOV required. For some other features it is a requirement. gidonb (talk) 03:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Those books only have a brief mention of the name, not significance, independent coverage. Possibly be WP:NEXIST since there is no significant coverage here. I mean an article, or a page of the book that describes this hamlet briefly. Editz2341231 (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since you only repeat yourself, I will refer you to my previous answers. The article should be kept by WP:GEOLAND. No whataboutisms will change that. gidonb (talk) 09:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep there might be an argument to be made to merge or delete this if there are nuances with Dutch statistical measurements, but the sources presented seem very clear this was a populated place. SportingFlyer T·C 23:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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