The Wayback Machine - https://web.archive.org/web/20230428135510/https://lwn.net/Articles/746325/
|
|
Subscribe / Log in / New account

Too many lords, not enough stewards

Too many lords, not enough stewards

Posted Feb 2, 2018 15:25 UTC (Fri) by hubcapsc (subscriber, #98078)
Parent article: Too many lords, not enough stewards

I'm the maintainer of a newish small part of the kernel. I send my
pull requests directly to Linus. I work hard to make sure the small
pull requests I send each merge window will merge with no problems.
So far I've never gotten more than one or two emails from Linus, they've
all been very pleasant. The particular one I remember best was when we
were still trying to go upstream, it had a smiley face in it where Linus
told me he be happy to accept us upstream as soon as Al Viro approved <g>.

Then I started getting emails from Al Viro with the most awesome
descriptions (which occasionally contained well chosen bad words,
or comparisons to things that probably aren't physically possible)
of the parts of our project that would have to be fixed
before we could be accepted. We worked hard on those parts, and as
time progressed, Al went way overboard helping me on weekends with
the parts he could see I was having a hard time with.

When I go to the LF meetings that the other maintainers go to, I'm
amazed at the depth of knowledge that many of them have. I'm old, I'll
never progress to that level, but there's a young guy on our team
that probably will. I doubt he's an anomaly, and when the time comes
there will be people ready to take over for the current set of
"irreplaceable" maintainers.

I get a handful of patches from other developers each development
cycle. Sometimes because they were reading our code and see a way
to make it better, sometimes because their fuzzers saw something
that was a problem. I'm thankful for all these patches and can't
imagine being abusive to their senders.

I guess that's my long-winded way of saying that I don't perceive
the current model as being broken.

-Mike "nothing's perfect"


(Log in to post comments)

Too many lords, not enough stewards

Posted Feb 2, 2018 18:31 UTC (Fri) by josh (subscriber, #17465) [Link]

I'm glad to hear you had a good experience. However, it's dangerous to generalize from "I didn't have any problems" to "I don't perceive
the current model as being broken".

Yes, every day, a large number of people manage to submit patches and get them merged or get feedback without getting attacked and flamed.

That makes it easy to think there's nothing wrong, if you haven't encountered a problem personally or watched one happen. Or if you've only seen one or two, or only those that make the news. For every instance that's so vitriolic it makes the news, there are many more that simply aren't as high-profile.

Nobody is saying the community is irreparable, or that there isn't a huge amount of good happening in it. It's because of all that good happening that people want to try to make it better, more enjoyable, less stressful, more welcoming.


Copyright © 2023, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds