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10 Ways Xbox 360 Changed Gaming
Achievements, matchmaking, digital distribution, and more -- we chart Xbox 360's innovations.
By: Matt Clark
Achievements? A downloadable game marketplace? High-definition graphics? These terms have become so commonplace in the console gaming lexicon that it's easy to forget just five short years ago, they essentially didn't exist. Whether you're an Xbox 360 fanatic, a PlayStation 3 admirer, or a Nintendo enthusiast, we can all hopefully agree on one thing -- the 360 has brought along a lot of innovation. In honor of the console's November 22nd fifth anniversary, here are just 10 ways that Xbox 360 changed gaming.
High-Definition Graphics
In 2005, the prices of HD televisions were only beginning to reach reasonable levels. Well, that's if you consider around $3,500 reasonable. Even with the cost barrier, Microsoft clearly believed that high-definition gaming was the future. HD televisions are now in 56% of homes, and many gamers have come to expect crystal clear graphics when playing big, triple-A titles. After all, what's the point of teabagging your friend in Halo if it's not presented in stunning, 1920x1080 resolution?
Achievements
The sound of an achievement being unlocked -- bloop! -- followed by the little on-screen notification, has become an iconic symbol in gaming. It became so popular, in fact, that Sony followed suit with the Trophy system on the PlayStation 3. Achievements have allowed developers to present players with additional challenges that may have otherwise gone unnoticed, upping the replay value of a number of games. Of course, they also probably brought out previously dormant obsessive-compulsive disorders. Remember, there's no achievement for straightening out the fringe on your area rug with a pocket comb at 3 a.m.
Microsoft Points
Love them or hate them, the Xbox 360's Microsoft Points represent the first instance of a gaming network maintaining its own currency. Some may argue -- understandably so -- that the conversion from real-life dollars to points constitutes an attempt on Microsoft's part to deceive consumers as to the actual cost of downloadable content. But the bizarre point conversion has become indoctrinated among Xbox 360 owners, and the ability to use the same points across multiple marketplaces (Live, Zune, Games for Windows) is rather convenient.
Trial Games
Remember when we were dependent upon gaming magazines to obtain discs loaded with demos? Sure, PC gaming was already light years ahead in terms of digital demo distribution, but console gamers lacked a thorough way to really experience what games had to offer before purchase. Thanks to Xbox Live's "trial game" feature, players gained the ability to test out nearly every game available on the Marketplace, as well as most retail titles. It's nothing to be taken lightly; trial games have allowed even smaller titles the ability to prove to a potential consumer that the game is worth your hard-earned Microsoft Points.
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360 Rules this generation!
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� monster597
Like it or not the fact is that the 360 simply has the best of everything in this generation. Microsoft got a lot of things right with the 360 this time round unlike Sony who got caught sleeping and with theri pants down. 360 has arguably the Best games, best multipayer platform in the form of Xbox live, sure you have to pay for it but it is much better than Sonys option. And look at how much xbox live has evolved sony is simply playing catch up at this point. Now with kinect out it may not be relevant for this generation but Microsft brought it out for a reason and I can bet you that next console from Microsoft will make full use of it. This was the same when xbox live first lauched in the original xbox the concept was new for consoles and many people thought it was not going take off, but look how fully it got integrated into the 360. So dredit has to be given to Microsoft for innovating the home console market and providing users/palyers with simply the best gaming experience around...... Sorry sony and nintendo funboys, but it is the truth.
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some good points
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� armyman_22
I agree with lots of the points made here (Im an achievement whore lol) they matter more than the score even though it does drivr me, but if 360 hadnt done it I think another machine would have. Nonetheless there are good points here.
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How about....
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� red_nickolai
No Hard drive, no wireless receiver, no HDMI, craptastic XBLA marketplace points that you end up losing money on because you can't just charge your credit card...
Plus acheivements/trophies and gamerscores? �I know I'm not the only one who finds both things just annoying, and regardless, even if you love them to death, how are either revolutionary?
The new 360's solve most of these issues, but the fact it's taken Microsoft five years to fix these "revolutionary," problems, says something.
And don't forget the red ring! �Viva la revolucion!
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It didn't take five years
Posted: 12/28/2010 by� Rowain
I bought an Elite in 2007 and it came with a 120GB Hard drive and a HDMI cable. The wireless adapter was a moronic oversight on their part, and the separate one could waaaay too much. And like it or not, achievements have spawned a whole new community of gamers, which is big enough to be called revolutionary. The idea was simple, rewarding completionists and perfectionists, but the results have been pretty crazy, with people buying and playing games solely FOR achievements. While I still enjoy playing simply for the sake of it, I also do a lot of playing for achievements. They've added depth and replay value where there was none before, challenging you to do something for the reward of bragging rights. It doesn't even matter if people care about your own gamerscore, it's the sense of completion and success that you yourself get from it.
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XBox live is solid.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� stint7
Microsoft did a lot of things right in this generation. �Many worried that the XBox would simply turn into a PC-like device when really it became a hardcore gamer's system that had features that only enhanced the experience. �Xbox Live isn't perfect but it works well and is worth the cost of not having to worry about excessive cheating, mods, and other crap that you have to put up with on PC gaming.�
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PC be Meaners
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� TheCoolWhiteKid
Explain to me why every PC gamer i know has an insane hatred for console gaming. As a Xbox/PS2 person i am constantly�berated with people saying how much console gaming sucks and how it is nothing like PC gaming. I plan to stay on console and not have invest in a expensive gaming PC for no reason. I love the Xbox 360. I have a 2007 Xbox and i have no problems whatsoever and i like having a controller. But back to my original point why do some PC gamers just hate console?
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Because
Posted: 12/27/2010 by� MarioDragon
Compare a modern PC's power to an Xbox or the PS3. They fail�miserably�in comparison. Graphics are worse, amount that can be done is severely limited compared to PC's, and you can't do major editing, video recording, picture editing, write a school thesis, or anything else that is incredibly useful.
Now of course the consoles have their upsides, being much much cheaper, the simplicity of it, how easy it is to start a game without crashes 90% of the time, without having to go through hours of reinstalling Windows because you got a malware that is undetectable by anything or anyone, or having to worry about your HDD completely failing because the SATA cable broke off the connector. Consoles generally have warranties, are then sent back to factory, obviously sent back to you, usually good as new with a still working hard drive. Usually.
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My point is, PC's win in every single way once you get right down to it. But, because of the general appealing to the population of the world, the ease of use, and because it doesn't cost more than 300 dollars or so, consoles have their uses. Keyboard/controller is really a preference, and a stupid reason to say PC's are better than consoles all because of a piece of plastic with a 10 button or 50 key difference. I guess I'm forgetting the mouse but a mouse is just as fast as an analog stick, and I really don't care what anyone has to say about that.
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Fail in every way??
Posted: 12/27/2010 by� gonzagawop
Fail in every way? The only real advantage pcs have over consoles is upgradability... Arguing better graphics is moot if the software doesn't bridge the gap. The only game in recent memory that showcased pc superiority was Crysis and now better programming has brought those games nearly equally to ps3 and xbox. Every pc enthusiast knows that hardware specs have surpassed the capabilities of software so you can spend thousands of dollars on your god pc that can run multiple porn sites simultaneously but it is not good for much else in gaming. One exception is mods and the size of multiplayer games but even then those are things I can live without. Pc gaming is dying with MMOs keeping the genre on life support. Consoles are the future. Pcs are the number 1 worst investment you can make.
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Are you stupid, or something?
Posted: 12/27/2010 by� MarioDragon
I mean, really? Seriously? You SERIOUSLY made a comment as dumb as that? I sir, am amazed, and congratulate you.
First, you should re-read my long first comment. I included video recording and major editing, which Adobe has kindly come out with CS5 to completely use i7's and 64-bit software to it's maximum potential, and even then over clocking could send it further.
You've never played something like Halo, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, any of the CoD games, or basically any game that's on the 360 and PC, and compared the graphics, have you? ALL those win, and with some mods you can DOWNLOAD, they further win.
And as for saying it's the worst investment you can make, lol, I have never laughed harder in my life. Don't get me wrong I own all consoles and a beast PC, but you really need to think before you talk. Oh and I'm a Mormon, I don't look at porn, sorry you like thinking about other dude's doin that though, I guess it's your problem.
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xbox
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� kaner99999
For me its the Gamerscore that grips me. I just purely love it
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So true
Posted: 12/25/2010 by� yummyjibblybits
Man im the exact same...I just love when you complete a challenge that takes you a good few ours to do and yo just here the bleep comes for it...most satisfying noise ever!!!
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Moving in the right direction.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� phenoxstar
I think that the Kinect is the most innovative change the 360 has contributed to the gaming world. Will human interaction and who knows maybe mental interaction be our next step?
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More like gouging
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� dunadan72
I don't think that charging for extras that we used to be able to unlock by actually playing a game through should be thought of as progressive or as some sort of innovation.� It's pure marketing and consumer gouging, simple as that.� Unfortunately, M$'s bean counters figured that there were enough people willing to fork out money for stuff like new levels or new outfits that there wouldn't be any sort of backlash.
Time has proven them right, and paying for extra content is now the norm.�
Don't get me wrong...I will pay for a classic (full) game that is offered through Live or PSN.� But to pay so that I can play Force Unleashed using Luke Skywalker instead of Starkiller?� GOLD membership not renewed!!
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Come on
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� sharkwouter
1920x1080 is only supported by a handfull of games, most games are just scaled up a bit (or a lot). Just look here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241 . Halo is a very bad example too since it's only 1152x640 (no AA). Most games do support 1280x720p which is considered "hd". If you have a 7 year old pc monitor it will have a resolution of 1280x1024 so nothing new.
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No offense, but..
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� nipsen
...I guess you can't expect more from someone who seems to think five years ago is ancient history.
Still.. this:
"Even with the cost barrier, Microsoft clearly believed that high-definition gaming was the future."
..is actually flatly false, in every possible sense. They actually believed the opposite of that. All their tech at the time, their sdks, their development guidelines - favoured sdtvs. So does the hardware, and it still does. It doesn't have a buffer for the graphics card that has room for expansion, for example. There's no vision on pixel-operations for scenes larger than that 1024x720 resolution that's become the de facto standard for "HD". The approach with high amounts of anti-aliasing and colour and post-filtering on the graphics array is 100% geared towards sd televisions only, and low resolution gaming. And it's a very conscious choice because the larger part of the market is still on sd televisions.
It's not that they've used HD as a marketing tool either, beyond slapping a label on the console box. They have people still going around lecturing their "contacts" on "visual science", and the way HD is a sham. They've really been about as subtle with their propaganda as that.
The 360 also notoriously lacks any kind of actual surround sound. The lack of a hdd is prohibitive for people who don't have a stable internet connection if they want to use it as a media-hub. So as a product, it doesn't deliver on any of those points in the way that even a tabletop PC would.
And that's been the curse of the xbox from the beginning - we've had more powerful PCs since before the launch. But programs and games have been kept exclusive for no reason other than marketing. While actual stronger hardware on PCs would largely be unused, thanks to the "industry standard" MS set.
Anyway, besides all of that - the xbox was and still is king of local multiplayer. That's where it made headway. At creating that social gaming experience in front of the screen. The party functions that turned up on xbl later is a great evolution of that, and this deserves praise. Nevertheless - this came late - long, long after whatever.. gamespy, steam, and any kind of client software under an MMO had used. And it's been copied straight out of that because it worked. But to call that innovation..? That's just not how it happened.
So no offense, but why does 1up print things like this? The angle isn't even "from my perspective as a gamer, who owned a Mac once, and then bought a console - this looks awesome to me", or something like that. It's just creating something out of whole cloth, that's more... let's use the word "favourable" to xbox and xbl than even the most enterprising salesman at MS, at least at the moment.
While also turning the table on what happened less than three years ago. I mean.. it's not even two years since MS slammed HD publically for being a sales-trick, used by, you know.. slit-eyed japanese, to lead astray impressionable Americans and their hard-earned cash. :p
But now, suddenly MS has "always been about HD gaming". lol.. I mean, really..
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what about the hard drive
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� aaa300
what about removeable hard drive this to me is a huge improvement.I have two xbox and when I play on one or the other or go to a freinds house its great to know that I dont have to take the whole system with me to play my downloads and games!!! Achievements though have to be the best thing from the 360,it brings me back to old school gaming when scores use to mean something.Now its more of you beat the game or you dont beat the game,back in the day it was more about whats your score on that game? The gamerscore on 360 brings me back and makes me play the xbox more.I own all the systems but if a game is on multi systems I'll buy it on 360 first for the gamerscore and I know I'm not the only one just look at the sales charts.One of the reason why 360 games sell more than ps3 it isnt all about system numbers kudos microsoft kudos!!!!! :0���������������������������������������������������������������������������������� ps trophys suck people want a gamerscore and god damn it wii why havent you jumped on the band wagon�I like nintendo the most but achievements pull me away from my wii!!!!!!:(�
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Sam got it right
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� JewUnit
Reading this article got me thinking of an old 1UP article.� Before the Xbox 360 launched, Sam wrote an article comparing the 360 to the Dreamcast and how the 360 would succeed where the Dreamcast failed.� It turns out most of the reasons were true.� Xbox Live was a huge deal, the marketing was well put-together, and Halo 3 pulled in lots of people.� Square-Enix's support and backwards compatibility didn't make or break the consolel, but the perception that Microsoft had covered all of its bases was good enough to warrant a purchase for most people.� Add in an excellent library of games and a solid interface and you have a large, satisfied userbase.� The 360 has lasted quite a bit longer than the Dreamcast and looks to be supported for years to come.� Scoff at the system all you want, but you can't argue with results.
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All those
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� BananaJane
All those 10 things.
They ruined gaming forever.
Permanently
It's broken, and it's never coming back.
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Kinect merely a answer to the market
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� swiller69
Don't believe for a minute that MS would even consider the kinect if it was not for the huge success and ownage of the wii. The tech was not innovated by ms, just bought from 3DV. The only thing they are responsible for is some mediocre software and reacting to the market.
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I hated the 360...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� myballzich
for the longest time...after 2 rrod's i wanted to to shoot the fucker....when u pay $400+ for a device...one would expect such device to last longer then 7-12 months...3rd 1 was the charm i guess..great..and finaly RELIABLE system..only took 4.5 years...still prefer the ps3 tho overall mwahahahahhaha!
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You paid...
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Americanpigdog
$400 for your 360? I got my 60 gb console and one controller for $230.
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lame
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� mikeclark1982
dude, i got my xbox for an ipod touch, one rrod and 30 games later, i enjoy it
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yes..$400+
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� myballzich
I got my very 1st 360 shortly after Oblivion was realeased...console+game=$400+...and it sounded like a freight train about to derail when it was runnig..crazy shit!
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Me too.
Posted: 12/15/2010 by� AStrangeDisease
I bought my first 360 when Oblivion was released too. It cost me over $600 for 2 games, an extra controller and a play&charge kit. I think I'm on my 4th now and spent a crap load of money over the years, but it's been worth it.
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Close enough
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Dub_Z
Kinect seems like an odd thing to tack on at the end, but i guess it's voice recognition and intent as an interface seperates it from generic camera add ons.
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Also, sega channel was broad band before broad band internet was even available. Different in alot of ways, but still a noteworthy also-ran.
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MS marketplace points
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� NeedleLies
I agree on most of the liste except for the MS points system to purchase dlc. it was never a good idea and is a pain to deal with. this system benefits M$ more than the users!�
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How is it not a good idea?
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Jaded_Fruit_Fly
Giving more people more options to spend their money on your products sounds like a good idea to me. Not needing a credit card to purchase DLC was a genius move if anything.
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This is how
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� 24thDoor
Of course it's a good idea to give people more options for making purchases online.
The bad idea was:
1)����� Making the points to dollars ratio convoluted.� �1 point = 1.25 cents causes (deliberate?) confusion and doesn’t benefit the consumer.
2)����� Only selling the points in chunks that don’t line up to the common product price points.� This actually directly undermined the “more options” benefit.
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360 so so
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� blanebishop
great great online service until another company tops it live is king . but oh so bad hardware ms knowing well ahead of time that the360 had issues in 05 dropped it anyway. i hope the slim 360 videos i seen on youtube breaking are a hoax otherwise a dame shame.
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How about game installs.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� SamuraiTerry
Every 360 game you can install and run from the hard drive. �Thats pretty cool for consoles. �
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Posted: 11/23/2010 by� myballzich
I think what SamuriaiTerry meant was "optional" installs....ps3 games install automaticaly if the game requires it..there is no "option"...as of yet..
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Thanks for the back up myballzich (great name!)
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
every single game I can install by my choice. �
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Posted: 12/16/2010 by� nipsen
I'm not going to go into the reasoning about why "installs" was such a big deal, and how the hdd-less version of the xbox made sure a lot of games were made in a different way than they could have been.. and how that means installing to hdd actually doesn't cause much of a performance increase....on a game that isn't just thrown into mastering with no thought, at least... but largely will be a way to avoid the noise from the dvd-drive, and all that..
But there are a few games on ps3 with an option to "install to hdd" in the game-menus. Valkyria Chronicles, for example. A few multiplatform games have the same thing.
Seriously, though.. But why are the installs a good thing? Since you still have to use the disc. It still spins up once in a while. It's great because it alleviates the performance issues that should never have been present with the dvd-mastering and copy-protection in the first place.
It's only great because the "dvd only" solution sucks so much.
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The first Xbox
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� propelledfoot
had matchmaking, Halo 2? So really, not the console itself, but how developers chose to structure their online multiplayer.
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Ahh achievements/trophies
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� xeroxcomplex
at one point I cared but really they have no value. I will never be a top rank and even having the mark for a particular doesn't matter.� I game because it's an outlet not to compete. I just don't see the point.
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Umm.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Johnupski
Isn't Gamerscore and Achievements the same thing?
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Not exactly
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Stealth_Mantis
Other platforms/games have their own systems in place for individual achievements - PS3, World of Warcraft, etc - but only 360 has one single, unifying score that neatly ties it all together. It's so much more powerful to have that Gamerscore right there, front and center on your profile than it is to actually have to go into someone's profile, look at their list of games, pick one of those games, and THEN see their achievements/trophies. Most people only do that with their closest friends/rivals, whereas everybody sees everybody else's Gamerscore automatically.
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umm
Posted: 12/22/2010 by� Defninja
Trophies and achevements are the same thing (in game accomplishments), akin to Gamerscore (the larger number tally on 360 telling you game alot) and Gamer levels (the small number next to the trophy star on PS3 which also tells how much gaming you have done).� So even the PS3 has a "single unifying score that ties it all together".
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Heartbroken
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Paul_E_Scott
I will admit that the XBOX 360 was my second choice as far as gaming systems went.� However, I still don't have one.� I bought the PlayStation 3 for myself as my first choice and I bought the Wii for my wife and daughter, completely skipping over the XBOX 360 altogether.
After seeing the incredible advances they've made recently, I will say that I am dedicating my next few paychecks to saving up for one.
- Paul Scott
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i love it
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� xG0DzxRambo316
best article 1up has ever written. stop hatin haters.
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RROD period
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� kudoshinchi
All those top 10 list < RROD, that only thing I remeber MS changing our way to bring hassel to gaming
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So...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Pryce
A computer company made a console that does all the things computers do. They must have really been thinking out of the box. Wait...
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Title Of Comment
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� over9000
>High-Definition Graphics
HAHAHAHA
>Achievements
I got those in Star Ocean 3, also cancer
>Microsoft Points
useless
>Trial Games
HAHAHAHA
>Gamerscore
cancer
>A True Entertainment Hub
>Digital Distribution
HAHAHAHA
>Matchmaking
Worst thing to happen to multiplayer games
>Kinect
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Both PS2 and the original Xbox
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� FeloniousMax
Had custom soundtracks, so you are way off w/ this "It seems hard to remember now, but the concept of using the same machine to listen to your own music library, while playing your favorite game, was previously relegated to PC gaming."
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Actually
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� DarkSideSol
The PS1 could do custom sound tracks also. �the first ridge racer available at system launch allowed you to remove the disc and put your own cd in.
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LOL- classic gamin
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PS1/PS2 Custom soundtrack to a point
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Jagosix
The Xbox1 had a lot more games that support custom in game music than the PS2/Ps1 combined. Now the X360 has custom soundtrack support in EVERY game (even games that aren't even out yet). You can also stream music via (usb hard drive, memstick, network, etc..)You can customize your playlist for however you want. It's the ONLY game console that allows for that option. It's not on the PS3 nor Wii.�
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agree
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� FeverZzz
�xbox live arcade , trial games , microsoft points,,, achievement ...since xbox 360 , we lack the motivation to play a games without achievements...
then world of warcraft follow the same path�
and yea.. i own 3 xb360 & 1 xbox , completely agree of this article�
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no Xbox 360 didn't do craps
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� kudoshinchi
half those craps on Xbox 360, has been innovate since on PC. So they didn't change gaming. Especially they just bring gaming down to an downgrade level with achievement.
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ummmm
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� FeverZzz
��yea,, i agree DLC / add on arent working the way it used to be ...ps2 / xbox age , we type a cheatcode then we got our bonus cars/ hidden level / character�
now its just twisted that we have to pay for everything , gamer pic , theme , some virtual accesary wore on your avatar cost 400 points ! LOL�
even worst , we need to pay for something thats in our disc..."= file size 108 kb LOLOL
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hmm
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� KBABZ
Don't really think a lot of those are attributed to the 360 itself and more the fact that Microsoft came first in releasing their console. The entertainment hub and high definition thing were done by the PS3, as would be game demos, and the rest are from the PC. The only ones the 360 did 'on it's own' is Achievements (not new, try R&C's Skill Points) and Kinect.
Also, fail in that almost all 360 games are in 720, not 1080. Heck not even Halo 3 could crack to 720 when it came out.
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where do you get this stuff
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� DarkSideSol
The 360 was out a clear year before the ps3 - fact.
MS is the first company to introduce online gaming �- fact - introduced on the dreamcast - which came out before the ps2 did - guess what os it ran - that's right windows derivative.
Most it not all 360 games upscale to 1080p - native is 720p - Halo 3 was the exception not the rule
most PS3 games only go up to 720p - fact this is the rule not the exception.
Comparing the entertainment hub aspect of the ps3 is a joke compared to the 360 are you kidding me? �It tool k the ps3 muliple firmware updates before it could even properly access my windows network and the internet at the same time - fail.
I like both my Ps3 fat and slim as much as the next guy and gal, but the 360 is the uber console
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@DarkSideSol
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� danzego
Speaking of "where do you get this stuff".....how does that mean that MS were the first to introduce online gaming? Sega's engineers were the ones who built the Dreamcast, not Microsoft. MS had no input into the hardware whatsoever. Their ONLY involvement with the Dreamcast was simply licensing Windows CE to Sega for use as the OS. They had nothing to do with Sega's decision to include a modem and online gaming on the Dreamcast.
Wow, talk about stretching to make a point. LOL
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You know what
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� GuapDog
I'll give microsoft�achievements, that was pretty fucking genius at the time. �And while both Sony and Steam have furthered their efforts with achievements, it doesn't seem like either has fully understood their value. �I think Sony now requires it in all releases, but it took them long enough to implement the standards considering the number of multi-platform releases. �And while many of the new releases on Steam have achievements, there are still some that don't. Achievements add value to a game, it's as simple as that. �They are relatively easy to implement, so their absence makes no sense.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 by� ohmikkie
The only thing achievements & trophies� gave was a centralised place for recording and comparing.
I remember MGS having piles� of stats. There are still games now which record and provide compare stats beyond trophies and acheivements. Including most of the mainstream titles.
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achievements and trophies.....
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� slayer0096
are somet times lame......people are obsses with theses things why i dont know.....what ever happen of just playing the game and enjoying it...now you need achievements/trphies to feel better about yourself....why?
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Change the fucking title.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� azr
Should be 10 Ways Xbox 360 Changed Console Gaming
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Stupid
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Greendewey
Console gaming is part of gaming. �If you changed console gaming then you changed gaming. �The title is fine, you're just too narrow minded.
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Console gaming used to be majority...
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� GenesisDoes
Before Blizzard made zombies out of like 150 million people or so.
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Sure but............
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Weirdwolf72
All these great achievements negated by one factor............RROD!
Btw I own one so I'm not what you'd call a SONY psychopanth.
I'm a multi console owner btw: (Chronologically)
Xbox360 (XboxOne never gave up on me until now)
PS3 (PS2 fat version well gave up after nearly 10 years)
Wii (No NGC but own a N64)
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sure but...
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Ahiru
all the non-great trophies were negated by one factor.... YLOD!!! but i'll also admit the RROD got a LOT more people than YLOD, including myself (i'm on my 4th and 5th unit, got them both set up in my room)
anyways, i also own the 3 mainstream consoles, but i have to admit the 360 is by far my favorite. i couldn't agree more that it was innovative back then.
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Most of these
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� YJDO
I'm sorry but most of these "changing" events are gimmies or have been done before
HD graphics? really? That's groundbreaking? That's like saying the PS3 has innovated with 3D
That's just plain evolution of technology no surpirses there and same thing for digital distribution
And yeah Steam kinda did everything mentioned above before
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the greatest game console
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� the_last_mandalore
ever made THE X-BEAST 360
for all the cool kids
not the whiny emo sissy playstation kids
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It sure did.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� AStrangeDisease
As an entertainment hub it's made my life easier. My Xbox is used for all my music, movies and tv shows. All of which is downloaded or uploaded onto hard-drives or streamed. The only discs I have to change are the games. (and those are usually played from the hard-drive too) The only other device in my entertainment center is a bluray player that rarely gets used.
Achievements and gamerscore also kick ass. It encourages you to use one online identity through all games and establish reputation by allowing other gamers to easily compare games and experience.
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Excuse me, but I have two questions
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� mynameisnoneofyourconcern
1. I would really like to know(because it's stated in the article)�was it microsoft or playstation who had the first 1080p game?� I know that microsoft offered up to 1080p resolution, but i think i remember that except for the elite 360�system, you couldn't even hook up an hdmi cable to an xbox�360. (this has�since been corrected by microsoft)� � If anyone can find out which�gaming system�was the first to have a true 1080p game, i'd sure appreciate it.� Cast your votes Now!
2. Are people actually still trying to get achievments?� Are these�even important to anyone?
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You don't need an HDMI
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� haonetat01
The Xbox360 is one of the few devices that will pass a 1080p signal through component cables, you just need a TV that will accept a 1080p signal through component cables (I know the Sharp Aquos models will).
And by "true 1080p" I'm assuming you mean that the native resolution is 1080p, I want to say it was a sports game, like 2K Tennis or something but I can't remember. It doesn't really matter, Sony dropped the ball on PS3 by not including a built-in scaler and having all games play in their native resolution therefore effectively shutting out people with 1080i only TV's (on a 1080i only TV the PS3 will display 720p games, as pretty much all are, in 480p). I still know people with these TV's who have sold the PS3 for a 360 because they can game in HD on their 360 and not on their PS3.
Ultimately it was left up to the developers to find a solution and so now you see alot of the big games like CoD supporting all resolutions that way they don't leave anyone out. I know people (especially the hardcore Sony fans) like to throw around the term "true 1080p" alot, but it's meaningless. The amount of games that are natively written in 1080p is so small that it's irrelevant. If you have a 360 then it scales everything to 1080p, and a scaled 1080p image looks better than a native 720p image. Don't let the big corporations fool you, HDMI was invented so that they could better control what you do with your media and that's it, otherwise we'd all be using VGA.
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hey hey
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� JTiizii
the first games to come out for the 360 weren't in 1080p so y would you need anything other than the cables that come with the xbox? also those cables are able to put out to 1080i even though some of those games were only 720p. later they corrected their mistake by adding the hdmi slot, and now they added the optical output slot which they had on their component cables.
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and achievements are the same thing as trophies on the ps3 its just that ps3 didnt have trophies until they realized ppl really enjoyed achievements. i love them cause it gives me much more to do in the game rather than just play through it. and avatar awards are awesome! im not gonna say ms came up with the avatar idea cause we all know that is bs but i have more fun making an avatar on the 360 rather than ps3 or wii cause my avatar is not overly cartoony and not too realistic. either way achievements are a blast.
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Uhm...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Axel_IX
Didn't the PC technically do half this stuff first?
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read the article
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� FredWillard
uhm...
The article already says that. They are talking about on consoles
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I have learned two things from this article...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� The_Nintendo_Us
1. list have to be of ten or at least 1up thinks so, even if you have to strench it to ten
2. The innovations of xbox live really hit only a small core amount of gamers and hardcore players, Im not saying this diminishes there importence but i just wish gaming press would aknowledge these things
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40 million and counting...
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� starseed072
I guess that could be considered a small core amount of gamers?
Anyway, spellcheck your shiz if you want to be taken seriously.
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DISAPPOINTING
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Senninha
I rarely disagree with 1UP, but this time around the legacy left by the likes of Garnett Lee among others that have left in recent years is beginning to be felt.� Let me start by stating that I do like the Xbox 360 and I was one of the early adopters who camped out two nights to get it at launch.� Unfortunately I don't like the direction Microsoft has taken in recent years, i.e. Avatars, child-like interface, unable to play old DLC games on newer consoles (thanks to three RROD) and an even more expensive XBL Gold subscription.� So I have been playing my PS3 more than I would've ever imagined.� And now I read about the 10 ways the Xbox 360 "changed" gaming.� More like barely modified it!� High definition graphics?!� Really?!!!� It didn't even use an HDMI cable until two years later and last I heard HD-DVD died a quick, yet painful dead for all of those that bought into it.� Microsoft Points?!� Why is this even good, they're a complete rip-off!!!� You always end up with more points than you need and then offer you Avatar items for exactly that extra few points you didn't use.� Trial games?!� How old is the person who wrote this article?!!!� I'm not even gonna get into this one 'cause it's just plain stupid!� Digital distribution?!� C'mon they were the first mainstream, but hardly a paradigm shift.� Matchmaking?!!!� Has the person who wrote this even played with a real computer?!� iPad and iPhones don't count you jackass!� Kinect?!� Really?!!!� It hasn't even been out for more than a couple of months and you're already stating that it changed the gaming industry.� Besides, isn't Kinect more of a way for Microsoft to capitalize on the Wii market?� C'mon guys, this article was beyond biased, it was lazy and unprofessional.� Sorry 1UP.
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Slow down and try not jumping to conclusions.
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
The title of the article is "10 ways 360 changed gaming." �No where did it say these were all good changes. �They didn't say these things revolutionized gaming, they used the word change.�It means to make different. �The article references that PC did some of these first, but it was the 360 that brought it to our televisions. �Component cables can do HD visuals. � So who is really biased here, you or 1up? ��
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ummm
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Flassh81
You should really fully read the article before making an ass of yourself. The writer clearly gave props to steam for digital distribution and PC games for matchmaking. Heck, it even ackowledged the controversey about MS Points as currency. Look before you jump.
As a long time PC gamer, I agree with this article as it did change Console Gaming. That is the only issue I see, the title sould specify CONSOLE gaming.
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looks like...
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� JTiizii
someone has a case of the grumpies. slow down read the article and pull the ps3 out of your ass. no im not a 360 fanboy since i currently own a ps3 as well and love it. but the online is far better than the ps3. and as for digital distribution, the article clearly states that steam has been doing this since 2003 but 360 started it on CONSOLES. the article doesnt say HD dvd player as a contribution, it says hd graphics. never mind that hdmi was added later, the component cables were enough cause most games werent even presented in 1080p from the start. ms points are better than buying in stores. not only can you add points here and there or save a trip to the store, you pay no taxes when buying ms points. they should have stated that downloadable trial games were started on the 360 as far as CONSOLES go. yeah yeah we know steam did it on pc. stfu and pay attention to what the article is saying. and lastly, im not even gonna tell you its just been in the article even though it is (and i know i just said it, i'm just being dramatic)
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KinectYes, it still remains to be seen just how much of an impact Kinect will have on gaming. Microsoft is marketing Kinect's sans-controller functionality as being the next big evolution for the Xbox. Obviously, the accessory is a technological advancement, but it's just too early to tell if Kinect is a game-changing innovation or just another toy. Regardless, it's a fitting tribute to the risks Microsoft has taken with the Xbox over the last five years.
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as you read this did you realize how much of an idiot you look like? yes they talked about kinect, and OMG we know that wii started motion gaming, when you read the last sentence of this part did you feel like a jackass? cause you should. he stated its a fitting tribute.� and i agree. all the changes made to the xbox like marketplace n such are great. watching movies using my voice as a control is fantastic.
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so in the end its all opinion as to what you think about anything. ill say you are a very angry prude with nothing but douche baggery spewing out of your, well, fingertips. but then again... opinion.
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Its all subjective.
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
I've been pretty disappointed out of my PS3 this year. �I had 3D dot game heroes and that was it. �I will say that it played the crap out of Toy Story 3 and Beauty and Beast Blu-rays!
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Meh..
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Fourth_Letter
Well, yes. �The PC did have most of the features long before the 360, but the 360 was what brought it to the mass market. �I love both, but it's way easier to just turn on a console and have it all right there for me. �And cheaper too.
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I don't like....
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� San_Andreas
...the we'll-fix-it-later mentality that started with this console generation. That's a PC convention I didn't want to see on consoles. I hate paying good money to be a beta-tester for half-finished games.
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In there defense,
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
games are WAAAAAY more complicated then they ever were. �As buggy as the Fallout games are, they are still an experience I've never had before.�
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lol..wut?
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� JHiller
1up must have forgotten about this thing called the PC. Hell HD graphics were even on the PS2 and XBOX, some games were able to be displayed at 720p.
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What what?
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� KILLER_TREKKY
The Original Xbox and PS2 did not support 720p playback. This is because when they were created, it wasn't even a standard. Though technically the max resolutions on the Original Xbox was 1920x1080 (1080p) no games actually acheived that. That's the equivolent of me playing Half Life 1 on my 1920x1080 monitor and calling it HD gaming. HD gaming is not just the resolution. And numerous times throughout the article they mentioned PC did it first.
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Don't think they forgot PC
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
since they referenced it repeatedly in the article.�
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High Definition IS about resolution!
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Senninha
Certain PS2 games could be played on 480p, which was not considered high definition, but it did look considerably better.� Anything about 720 is considered high difinition by today's standards, even if the game was not designed with high definition in mind.
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Dumb people
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Greendewey
Enough with the "PC did it first" statements. �They're idiotic. �I'll repeat what I said earlier. �Although I'm not positive you know how to read since you didn't understand the article.
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This was about what the 360 did for gaming. �It brought all of these PC innovations and made them work on the console.
Surprise! �PCs never brought all of these innovations to consoles. �Xbox did that. �Therefore xbox did gaming a service by being the first to expand these innovations to a larger market and to a different game system.
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Actually
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� DarkSideSol
the Matrix on xbox 1 was the first 1080i game I recall released. �I don't recall the ps2 ever sporting hi-def
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Good and bad
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Greendewey
I sometimes forget what the 360 has done for gaming. �I love most of it but don't see MS points as a good thing.
Lousy way to cheat us out of a few bucks.
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How?
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� starseed072
Everything costs the same. It's 99 cents on itunes, it's 80 MS points in Zune, A ten dollar map pack is 800 points. the scale has always been 400 pts= $5.00
I don't get where people come off that they get cheated. If you do the math (see above) you'll see that you have always payed the exact same amount you would've with cashy-money. The points you have left over are not lost, and are usually a product of slightly cheaper DLC.
For the longest time, Zune marketplace only charged 79 pts. per song. That makes that song cheaper than its itunes counterpart. It's like a built in rewards card giving you 1% back on every purchase. How are you cheated then?
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ms points vs. cash
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� JTiizii
with ms points you dont pay taxes. with cash you do. i work at gamestop and if you buy the dlc in the store it charges tax. and with ms points if you have more than you need to spend you still have your money. its not like if you pay for 1600 points and buy something that costs 800 it takes the other 800 away. you still have your money and you are saving a little bit here and there.
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Know your history
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Greendewey
400=$4.99 is only a recent change. �It happened earlier this year. �Before that you were always left with MS points because 500 pts = $4.99 and if you wanted to spend them then you had to buy more pts to afford anything.
It was a rip off and people were cheated.
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http://www.1up.com/news/microsoft-increments-purchasable-microsoft-points
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Oh how quickly we forget...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� sethmilk
360 was the first to include wireless contollers standard with a console.
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errr what?
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Greendewey
I got my 360 before the PS3 came out and it had a wireless controller.
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@xtendo_ninbox
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� futurefighter48
it doesnt matter that it was not in all of them, most people dont even consider the arcade a real SKU anyways
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I disagree
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Senninha
The Arcade unit has always been at the forefront of Xbox sales and that's the reason why they advertise it so much for just $199, which is a complete rip-off!� Anyone who knows about videogames just a little bit will have to get the $299 console, which still pales in features to the PS3.
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Haha Arcade hahahaha...
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� starseed072
When I worked for gamestop the year the 360 came out, I sold the STANDARD edition 3-to-1 against the Arcade edition.
They pretty much quit making arcade consoles a few months after the Elites came out.
Even then, you would have to be an idiot to say that the 360 wasn't the first to make wireless controllers standard hardware.
You would probably be kinda hard pressed to even find a wired controller in stores anymore.
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@Senninha
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� JTiizii
no one cares that you have a ps3 in your house and your ass. also what starseed072 said is correct. and you are right. if you are into video games then y not get a harddrive with your console. the arcade was strictly for that... ARCADE. CASUAL. NON-HARDCORE. what makes me mad is the ps3 i bought isnt backwards compatible but the one before the one i bought is. makes no fucking sense y they would put backwards compatibility on one console and not the other. shit i would pay more for that... not much more but a little bit. the ps3 offers THE EXACT SAME THING save blu ray. but any game that comes out other than heavy rain and GIANT rpg's i'd rather play� on my 360. so what other features other than blu ray does the ps3 offer? hd gaming? oh you can fit more on a disc... what would we ever do without blu ray? oh wait a sec... put it on more than one disc. who cares if you have to get up and switch discs. stfu u noob n make some fucking sense for once.
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The Arcade skew is no worse than a Wii.
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� SamuraiTerry
The Wii can't even play CDs and yet there are 80 million of them out there. �Its a la carte gaming. �Who cares what people waste their money on.
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having competition between Xbox and PS benefits us
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Final_Spart4n
Both companies have pushed the envelope to gain your dollar so the more innovative games and capabilities�they push out the door;�will only enhance our experience.� Kudos to Microsoft and Sony for providing a great gaming experience.
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If you believe this
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Mr.Sauce
Why do you always come off as the super idiot fanboy so much? If you can acknowledge that the competition drives gaming experiences forward and both companies provide a great gaming experience, what is the purpose of being "that guy" in a room full of level headedness?
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Everyone Contributed
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� EKGTrooper
Nintendo is responsible for bringing gaming back from the dead, and creating some of the best games ever made.
Sony is responsible for the first true dual analog controller which revolutionized 3D gaming.
Sega is responsible for making the first big push for online gaming with the Dreamcast.
Microsoft is responsible for the addictive Achievements, and for ushering in a new era of online gaming.
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They all have their homes in the book of Video Game Legends.
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Slight Correction About Sega in Your Post
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� L0gic_Bom8
Actually, they started their intentions of online gaming with the Saturn system which you could buy a 14.4kbps modem.� I actually still have the Saturn system. ;-)
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Off of it
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Greendewey
Of course thats true, but this isn't about all the contributions all consoles have made, this is about the 360's contributions because its its B-Day.
Is it so hard to just say "good job"?
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I've Always Said Microsoft Doesn't Get Enough Credit
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Pacario
People love to rave about how innovative the Wii is, but many overlook the great contributions the other consoles have brought to the medium--many of which are more practical and useful than controller waggling (I even recently wrote a blog on this very point).� Everything Microsoft has pioneered with the 360, from seamless matchmaking to achievements to hard drive storage (which this article doesn't even mention), will now always be the standard for future consoles.�
Even Nintendo will one day have to play catch-up and begin offering at least some of the features we now take for granted on the 360.� (Especially the try before you buy feature.� I hate plopping down ten bucks on some WiiWare game without having any idea how good it actually is.� Pretty lame, Nintendo.)
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Guys shut up
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Snake5789
Yeah, a lot of the 360's features are from the PC, but it did some really cool things too.� I thought this was a good read, and I love my 360 even though a lot of what Microsoft does is bullshit.
Oh, and before anyone calls me a biased Xbot, I own a 360, a PS3, a Wii and two gaming PCs.
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*shakes head*
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Bast
Going by this article's viewpoint the PC gaming innovations didn't count until they showed up on Xbox? PC had HD graphics, Demos, Digital Downloads, Xfire, Steam, Teamspeak/Ventrilo etc way before MS brought them to console.... The article even mentions it "Another concept Xbox 360 lifted from PC gaming...."� Lame.
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Oh yeah
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Bboy_Izilla
That's right, because the average gamer has a Steam/Direct2Drive/GFW account and also those same people teamspeak all the time. The PC gaming audience is so totally the audience that brought this to the mainstream.
/gtfostatements
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@Bboy_Izilla
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Bast
Who said anything about bringing these features to the mainstream? This article is covering supposed Xbox innovations that changed gaming. I'm just pointing out that many of the ones in this article have been on PC for a while, so gaming was already changed. MS only adapted it to their platform and stylized it.
Now you may remove your head from your buttox.
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Changed...
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� GunBullet
...gaming.� Not changed gamers lives.� These things changed gaming.� PC players enjoyed these first, but that didn't change gaming.� The things listed here changed the way games are played.� These concepts were not very innovative for the PC, in fact they took too long to develop because of the caustic environment PC gamers create with their rediculous brand loyalty.� Throw this shit on a console and BLAMMO, it's everywhere and everybody is trying to cop it.� I never once thought when playing my PS2 online that I wanted any of these options.� Now that Xbox incorporated them, I can't live without them.� That's changing gaming.
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PS. Well, except Kinect.� Still do not want.
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Please
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� Greendewey
This was about what the 360 did for gaming. �It brought all of these PC innovations and made them work on the console.
Surprise! �PCs never brought all of these innovations to consoles. �Xbox did that. �Therefore xbox did gaming a service by being the first to expand these innovations to a larger market and to a different game system.
Just think about things before you say them.
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Give credit where credit is due
Posted: 11/22/2010 by� ss_goku4
We all know that PCs have been able to do all of the things mentioned in the article before consoles, or the xbox 360, were able to. The problem is that when it comes to PC gaming, it's almost considered a luxury to be able to have a dedicated PC for gaming. Most people buy a regular stock PC to take care of their day to day needs, so only a small percentage of PC users were actually using all of the said features. The xbox 360 on the other hand gave consumers a piece of hardware that was dedicated to gaming and brought all of those features to console gamers.�
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@ss_goku4
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Bast
Totally agree. PC gamers constitute probably like 5% (excluding casual popcap gamers) of the overall gaming community. Even though it's such a small number doesn't mean we should exclude them as gamers.
It would be like saying ... ya, there were MP3 players long before iPod came along, but it wasn't until Apple made it "cool" that they were relevant. Ya know?
I'm not trying to troll Xbox, I've had mine since day one. I agree MS was smart to implement all these PC gaming features 1st. But to give them credit for them is what erks me a bit. So, yes they did change "console" gaming in a big way ..gaming as a whole ... well, not so much.
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Bast
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� Greendewey
Console gaming is a part of gaming. �If you change console gaming in a big way then you change gaming.
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Well
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� sepewrath
since half these things are lifted from the PC, does it really count? The PC is mainstream gaming platform, so of course succesful practices of it would find its way to consoles. The same as succesful practics on individual consoles find their way to competing platforms. Even Achievements cant be attributed to MS, though I give them credit for making them less tangible and worthless lol.
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Achievements.
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� pandasnyper723
If someone told me 6 years ago there would be this seemingly useless system of tracking things you do in a game to show to your friends, and it would be such a huge deal, I would have laughed.
But this has made me play games longer than I ever would've, and in ways I never would have imagined doing if there wasn't a little carrot on a stick telling me to kill 54 thousand zombies in Dead Rising.
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About Microsoft Points
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Nolanator09
"...the ability to use the same points across multiple marketplaces (Live, Zune, Games for Windows) is rather convenient."
Yeah, you know what else works in multiple marketplaces? �Good ol' fashioned United States Dollars.
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Eh...
Posted: userComment.createdDate by� Metroidvaniac
It's an okay list. I will admit that XBLA rocks; really, most of the Xbox games I have (and all of the Xbox exclusives I own) are XBLA or other downloadable titles. Achievments, too, are great, but a lot of titles can do that on their own. In Shadow Complex, if I beat the game with a low item percentage, I get an achievment; if I do that in Metroid: Zero Mission, I get a picture of Samus for the gallery. Even Metroid Prime 3 and The Conduit had their own achievment-like system without tying it in to any sort of system-wide "gamerscore." Near-universal trials/demos are great, too; I like being able to try a game before plunking down money on it, especially if it's a non-refundable downloadable title. But most of the other things on this list leave me cold, especially the bizzarely valued Microsoft Points. I usually buy game codes off of Amazon rather than buy those.
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Missing the point?
Posted: 11/23/2010 by� revanblack
This makes it so all your progress is logged into one giant score. Yea you can beat the hell out of Smash Brothers or something, but no one anywhere will see it.
I find it so hilarious how many people are arguing over this article. Other points to be made:
1. Shut up about PC did it first, they mentioned that. About six or seven times.
2. There was NEVER a point when the Arcade 360 outsold the other models. It was at the forefront because MS said "Starting at $199." When I worked at Gamestop we got ten 360 bundles for every solo Arcade. And sold through 20 bundles before that one Arcade.
3. The nerds on this site are f***ing d-bag losers. You're arguing about video games. Go read a newspaper or get some fresh air.
4. People still do achievement hunt. If a game is truly bueno, I will go out of my way to get all of them I possibly can. Four left in Mass Effect 2, couple in Borderlands...
5. Wireless... yea. As wild as that is, simply making it so my controller�doesn't have�a mandatory tether is one of the biggest best�changes from 360.
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